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I Can't Take It Anymore! I Have Pushed the Ban Button!

4/5/2006 5:33 am

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I love to come to Big Church. It is not about meeting Mr. Right. It is about having interaction with other Christians. I left for a couple weeks a while ago because things were entering my spirit from here that shouldn't be. I made some adjustments in how I did things here so that I could protect myself and then came back. One of the things that was disturbing me from before was false and misleading teachings. I took steps to protect myself from the people who were promoting these things by banning them from commenting on my blogs and by deciding not to visit their blogs.

I find myself being very irritated by three members here because of the poison that they are spreading. There is no reason why I should have to put up with their junk on my blog. It is not the fact that they disagree with me that upsets me. It is that what they teach disagrees with the Word of God! And it is not just one mistake or off belief! It is that they consistently do not adhere to the Word of God!

I refuse to leave Big Church again. Therefore, I have decided to ban these three people permanently from commenting on my blog and I will not be visiting their blogs. Other people seem to be having problems with these same three people, too. Perhaps if the people who are having the problems with their teachings would ban them, too, they would either get the message and change their beliefs or leave the Blogs. Either one would be a welcome relief to me.

bsk1971
(Bryan Kimble)

4/5/2006 5:53 am

I hope and pray that this is not toward me. Please forgive me if I have every promoted an unbiblical teaching. I am open to any Scriptural correction. That is why I offered to answer any of your questions.

wright1

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4/5/2006 5:59 am

hi there -

I do not know of whom you speak, but I must caution you to remember that only the Holy Spirit is the agent of change - and that we should all remember that people many had problems with what even Yeshua Himself taught.

There are many here who I believe to be misled in their doctrine, and I am sure that many others here have a similar situation wherein they do not agree with some (or most, or all) of what others express.

This is true even with my own positions.

I know for a fact that there are many here who completely disagree with my position on remarriage after divorce, for instance -

and should they choose to ban me because they disagree with "me" (my opinion), it would cause me to wonder if in fact they were banning me simply because they couldn't accept the conviction of the Truth that was being presented.

So, I merely caution you in how you approach the banning of others - and while I do believe that there are times when it is necessary to ban another from your blog, it may be best to do so quietly, or with little fanfare.

That way, it simply appears that the two "sides" no longer engage in exchange.

Just something to think about -

sincerely,

Frances

Rebekka

4/5/2006 6:01 am

I love BC and spend a lot of time here. I love reading what other people have to say and if it happens to be something I don't agree with, I just don't respond. We have that right here and the right to ban anyone from commenting on our blogs. I love your blogs, you have so much wisdom and are a blessing to me. Please don't leave as I would miss you terribly.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth

spiritrealm

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4/5/2006 6:03 am

Really saved, I really understand how you feel, I have even began to feel that way and have not been with bigchurch that long. But your concern is right and I agree 100% some things really try to get in your spirit. Be encouraged and keep standing strong on the word of instructions from the Lord. spirit realm

gpsysong

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4/5/2006 6:10 am

wow! ummmmm..... Jean? What's your defination of legalistic???

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bowflexteecia7at

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4/5/2006 6:17 am

Sorry to hear of your trouble, however it is a common thing. You made the right decision. I have been very mild on here because I am one of the new kids on the block so I am observing how things are done on this site. I have a nack for upsetting the applecart with some of my teachings. However, I am not after being right but after the truth. I always give scripture to show why I believe the way I believe. I love a challenge as it causes me to dig deeper but I am not offended when other's can't see what I believe is the truth. I perceive you are a strong woman and stand firm in what you believe. This is refreshing. Keep standing and taking ground for the Kingdom.
You are blessed.

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4/5/2006 6:33 am

I thought this place was rather quiet and relaxed at the moment. But maybe I've missed some developments?
The ban button is invented to be used I guess ... you're relationship with the Lord comes first. Keep focused!

Gloria

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

4/5/2006 7:35 am

Quoting wright1:

Frances, thank you for stopping by.

I clearly stated above that I am not banning these people for disagreeing with me. If you look at my blog posts, you will see that I do not ban people for disagreeing with me or even delete their comments. Even if people state opinions that are completely off-base, I will let them stay because they will be corrected by myself or others here. I am not concerned about them.

I have no desire, though, to let people who do not teach Biblical principles and will not take correction to continue to post comments on my blog. If they have been told over and over again by many people here that their teachings are not Biblical and continue to teach them, I believe it is Biblical to have nothing to do with them. I do not have time right now to look up the Scriptures to back up my point here, but I will if you don't know them.

As for your statement that I should do it quietly, I totally disagree with that. I actually believe that I should have named who they are, but I have stopped short of doing that. They are making public statements and they really should be rebuked publicly. I just didn't have the heart to do that.

I don't know what you teach, because I haven't visited your blog. What you say there is up to you. I have the right to choose whether or not to visit someone else's blog and I have the right to ban someone from commenting on my blog, though. I feel very comfortable in exercising my rights here.

Be blessed!

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

4/5/2006 7:39 am

Quoting Rebekka:

Elizabeth

Thanks, Elizabeth! I enjoy reading your comments and posts, too! And I am not going anywhere! I am just trying to protect myself from allowing too much junk from here into my spirit.

I usually either ignore comments I disagree with or state my opinion. However, if someone continually spreads false doctrines, not only on my blog but others as well, and refuses to be corrected by several people, after several attempts, that person is very dangerous to the body of Christ and I will have nothing to do with them. That is just me, though. What others do is up to them.

Be blessed, Sister!

blueeyes1953

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4/5/2006 7:40 am

realy saved read my blog

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

4/5/2006 7:41 am

Quoting spiritrealm:

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement! I appreciate you and your words of wisdom here at Big Church very much!

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

4/5/2006 7:45 am

Quoting bowflexteecia7at:

Thank you so much for stopping by! I think I like you already! I love to challenge others with Biblical principles and I love to be challenged myself. I have changed my views on a few issues since I came here to Big Church and started blogging. I am always open to correction where I am wrong. And whether we will admit it or not, we are all wrong on something! I would love to here some of your applecart upsetting teachings! Bring them on!

Be blessed!

ProdicalSon1963

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4/5/2006 7:55 am

Jean I agree with your position 100%. I love and encourage debate as we are all going to disagree on some issues, but you are right, there are people on here who seem to be preaching from a book other than the Bible. I seen one post where a young lady in Christ was encouraged to go ahead and listen to a gay minister because "God's word rocks" and it doesn't matter who is giving the message. They almost seem, like a friend of mine said, unwitting pawns of Satan who are masquerading as angels of light.The biggest danger I see is that there are people on here who are hungry for the Truth but have not yet been armored with it, so that makes them vulnerable to false doctrine. You have a right and a responsibility not to let the Devil himself use your Blog as a bully-Pulpit, he can create his own....GBU........Ken

godgodgodgodgodg

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4/5/2006 8:01 am

HI JEAN,
WELL IF THESE PEOPLE ARE CAUSING YOU PROBLEMS IN YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE,
THEN YOU NEED TO BAN THEM(FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION)
BUT I WOULD ADVISE YOU NOT TO ASK OTHERS TO DO THE SAME,
IN OTHER WORDS GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO LEARN FROM THIS,
AND MAYBE THEY WILL IMPROVE THEMSELVES.
GBU
MARCOS

BLESSED ARE THE MERCIFUL,FOR THEY SHALL RECIEVE MERCY.

ProdicalSon1963

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4/5/2006 9:00 am

Quoting godgodgodgodgodg:

BLESSED ARE THE MERCIFUL,FOR THEY SHALL RECIEVE MERCY.

Would Jesus let someone come into His Father's house and corrupt it?

I guess I am not for a total ban, but when you see a post that you know in your heart is totally against God's word, what are you to do?
This is a very difficult situation to be in. On one hand we need to encourage debate as debate encourages further study in the Word. But on the other hand, if it is a blatant contradiction of the Word, should we leave the post up and risk the chance of a new believer who is not yet fully armored, losing their salvation? There is no easy answer....I need to pray on this some more as I am very confused and want what is best for all my brethren...I am not concerned with you, Jean, steve, or any other brethren who are Mature in the Word, it is with the hungry newbie that has me heavy of heart.........Thank you for your post Marcos...GBU......Ken

Windsage

4/5/2006 9:08 am

hey someone got me banned for abuse while I was gone .. did YOU do that Jean .. muahaha

JUST KIDDING .. know you didn't sis hehe ..

but too funny your posting about banning people from your blogs and someone had just gotten me banned from bc altogether! hehe

I do see your point and as of yet haven't even thought to do that .. and only have deleted one post ever .. mostly I let things be .. so far anyways .. though if I found someone who was doing or saying things that I really felt should not be there .. I would again delete a post .. and if it continued I would ban them I believe .. but so far at least for me I haven't had to resort to such things ..

love ya sis .. you do as you think He's leading you ..

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4/5/2006 10:46 am

Sweetie, I agree. Although I am just learning this Christian thing again after taking a over 4 year sebatical. There are just things that aght not be. and that is scammers, and unbiblical teaching. at least here.

Yes there are going to be issues that we do not all agree upon. However, there are things that are j ust soooo very wrong its not even funny. We are told to guard our hearts and spirits. And that includes taking out the falsehoods.

So Sweetie I DEFINATELY APPLAUDE YOU FOR YOUR STAND!!!!!!!!!!!

Godsgrayce

4/5/2006 11:24 am

I agree with you. I've gotten a few odd emails from people that have made my eyebrow go up a bit. I haven't banned anyone yet, but I like to think that option is always open for me and my comfort level. Thanks for you and your blessings.

dulee

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4/5/2006 1:06 pm

prayers and (((((hugs))))))

DuLee

ProdicalSon1963

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4/5/2006 1:49 pm

Quoting Jean, "I have no desire, though, to let people who do not teach Biblical principles and will not take correction to continue to post comments on my blog. If they have been told over and over again by many people here that their teachings are not Biblical and continue to teach them, I believe it is Biblical to have nothing to do with them. I do not have time right now to look up the Scriptures to back up my point here, but I will if you don't know them."

Is this the scripture you were thinking about?

Mark 6:11 And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them."

appreciate

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4/5/2006 3:24 pm

It couldn't have been easy for you to come to this final decision...I agree what is preached falsely publicly should be pointed out publicly for many would have been led astray...may the Lord give me boldness as needed and that I will stay tuned to hear what He says...usually I am more 'introvert'...not outspoken

...learning and pondering about issues and resolving them as I go along in the Lord...thanks for being in BC Jean

Man can make many plans...BUT it is the Lord who will direct his paths....

Tropical_Guy
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4/5/2006 4:47 pm

Jean...what am I gonna do with you? I want to say that Jean and I have been good friends for 6 months now. She is the sister I wish I always had and i consider her family. I dont even have to know her reasons because I know Jean. She has my blind support because I know her heart and her desire to be a submitted servant of the Lord. Not submitted to some crazy denomination or under some persons so called authority. She sits under the spiritual feet of the Holy Spirit. What better place? Man is not her teacher nor should he be. That is the Holy Spirits job. Jesus is her covering and he is the only covering anyone ever needs.

I do not think some people realize how much she cares about you all. She does. She has much more patience with idiots. By idiots I mean people who purposely try and push an agenda contrary to the word of God.

Jean isnt into legalism. She understands what the word says regarding Grace. Grace goes beyond any understanding of any so called law. I love You Jean and I want people to know how much help she has been in my situation regarding my Fiance' Mercy. We are hoping that jean can officiate our wedding. Thanks again Jean.

levs_514

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4/5/2006 5:02 pm

I just discovered blogs for weeks. All topics here seems interesting. But I am most interested in topics about life applications in Biblical ways. How God and the Holy Spirit work in someone's life. How to live according to God's pattern. As I've said before, I like your topics, and how you respond for comments. I believe God is using you as His mouthpiece in this site. You have so much to give, when it comes about God. Hope you continue your good works for God. Don't let satan defeat you. GOD BLESS MY SISTER.

" We are fearfully and wonderfully made." Psalm 139:14a

wright1

801 posts

4/6/2006 4:44 pm

Hi there -

Thank you for responding to my post.

However, I think you misunderstood the nature of what I posted earlier - for nowhere do I advocate silence in response to false teaching - in fact, anyone who has ever read my blog knows that I am very forthright in calling something what it is - especially if I believe it to be sin. (which seems to me to be what you are dealing with in regard to the individuals that you have banend?)

that said, let me try and explain what I meant in my earlier post here - so that all who read it may better understand my position and my suggestion to you.

In my original post here I said:

"while I do believe that there are times when it is necessary to ban another from your blog, it may be best to do so quietly, or with little fanfare."

you responded with:

"As for your statement that I should do it quietly, I totally disagree with that. I actually believe that I should have named who they are, but I have stopped short of doing that. They are making public statements and they really should be rebuked publicly. I just didn't have the heart to do that."

I think this was perhaps the area prone to the greatest misinterpretation of my intent, so I would like to try and clarify what I mean.

I completely understand your frustration with false doctrine being presented, even if we may disagree on particular issues. The frustration born is the same, do you agree? - I base that conclusion on the premise that we each hold a conviction within our spirits about something, and to hear another claim and "teach" something in opposition to what we believe to be Truth seems to almost require a response (or rebuke).

Sometimes it is indeed best to do so publicly, but sometimes it is best not to. Wisdom is what offers the method of determining which approach is better, and we must be ever sensitive to the Holy Spirit in order to ascertain what that wisdom is telling us.

Sometimes the blatant error or discord from another may be so severe that you will have to take some sort of action. It may even mean that you SHOULD ban one from posting on your blog- as that may be the only way to safeguard your own spirit from falling into the trap of acting from your flesh (and emotions) and to also ensure the entegrity of your own blog presence.

However, the act of banning someone does not have to be a public spectacle in order to be effective. In fact, creating too much of a "fuss" over banning someone could actually have the opposite effect from what you are trying to accomplish. While you may indeed need to very boldly (and in plain view for all to read) call someone "out" based upon their positions and statements, you do not have to also loudly proclaim them banned.

What purpose does that really serve?

I stand by my earlier post without hesitation. And while I never wrote or suggested that you are without right to ban another from posting, it seems as though you may have interpreted my comments in that manner.

Please reread my earlier post so that you are comfortable in understanding that I DO believe you (and everyone else, for that matter) are "entitled" to banning options.

But look also at your closing comment that I referenced above, wherein you state:

"I should have named who they are, but I have stopped short of doing that. They are making public statements and they really should be rebuked publicly. I just didn't have the heart to do that."

reallysaved, I am very glad to read that last line! For this tells me that you are sensitive in spirit to what is really appropriate in this matter - and in fact it tells me that we are not as far off in our positions as you might think!

You see, if you have the "heart" to correct someone (from and in love, as we are instructed - which doesn't mean that you are not firm) but yet you do not have the "heart" to call them out by name publicly perhaps because you sense that it would be ? - cruel? (I'm guessing, here) - then it actually sounds like your position is more in keeping with what I originally wrote than you suggest.

if you feel it appropriate to ban someone, go right ahead - you do have that "right" - and no one here has said or implied otherwise.

All I am saying is that it is sometimes better to do such a thing from a more private standpoint.

Think about it like this - aren't there plenty of times when the LORD chastises and corrects us in private when He certainly could bring about such discipline in public? -

It is a form of grace - and it is rarely easy to extend to those who seem "hell-bent" on maintaining a course unto destruction (which is what it sounds like those you banned are maybe doing?)

I hope this serves to clarify my original post - as I am concerned that you didn't receive the intended thought. Perhaps I should have found a better way to have posted -

anyway - I hope you do not have further trouble with those you have banned - and that you are given a peace about this message.

Sincerely,

Frances

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

4/6/2006 6:27 pm

Quoting wright1:

I don't care to comment on your statements directly. I guess I don't care to comment at all except to say that it is my blog and I will do what I feel the Lord would have me to do here. I don't really appreciate you coming back and chastising me again on my own blog. Please, I am asking you nicely not to make anymore comments on this post. You are upsetting me, and there is no reason for me to be upset. You said what you had to say once, and I responded. Now, you have come back and responded again. Please, let this be the last time. I am asking you nicely. Thank you.

wright1

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4/6/2006 9:08 pm

as you wish -

Robyn2006

4/7/2006 9:03 am

Jean-

In my dealings with you I have found you to be nothing less than kind, caring and supportive. If you have found just cause to ban these people from your sight, then I know in my heart the decision was not based in spite, anger or bitterness. From what I see you just don't have that in you. You have my support and my prayers that this issue will come to a close and you will be troubled by it no longer.

May God bless and keep you Jean. You are a strong woman that I admire.

Forry

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4/8/2006 12:59 am

My dear Jean, I have been off the "air for a short time due to computer trouble, and still having trouble, so just dropped in to say hi and miss you, oh and still love you with the love of my LORD.
Shocked to find yet another trouble here on BC, this time with you dragged into it, it seems to never end. Be blessed my sister , be blessed, don't look to the left nor to the right but keep your gaze upon HIM. Just keep walking in the spirit, and be guided by HIM (as you always are ).
Love and blessings in JESUS name,
Forry.

GODRULESGLO
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4/9/2006 9:35 pm

Do what the Holy Spirit laid upon your heart...It is between you and the Lord!

Thanks for your boldness!
glo

"Create in me a pure heart, O God!" (Psalm 51:10)

Teach me your way, O LORD,and I will walk in your truth; give me an undivided heart, that I may fear your name. I will praise you, O Lord my God, with all my heart; I will glorify Your name forever. (Psalm 86:11,12)

godsservant63

4/10/2006 8:12 am

Quoting appreciate:

...learning and pondering about issues and resolving them as I go along in the Lord...thanks for being in BC Jean

I fully agree with appreciate. What do you think Jesus would do with people trying to pervert his teachings. He would have rebuked them in public.

I know there are new Christians on here and they can fall to wrong teachings very easily because they have not learned yet and they are still drinking the milk.

I am glad there are people like reallysaved and prodigalson1963 that stand up against these false teachings.

Sincerely,

John

reallysaved replies on 4/10/2006 8:55 am:
Thanks, John. I appreciate your words of wisdom and your vote of confidence!

cynamun

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4/10/2006 10:56 am

I am fairly new at the blogs and I really love to read the debates on Christian issues. I feel like reallysaved could be my sister easily.
I pray that God helps this issue to be worked out in His way. I do enjoy most of the people here. God bless.

CLASSYLADY23834
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4/10/2006 9:40 pm

Jean,
Thank you for God-given courage to stand for the truth. I appreciate your example of faith and encouragement to me, personally.
CL

NellyB707
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4/11/2006 5:00 pm

YOU GO GIRL!!! Listen to what the Holy Spirit would have you to do ALWAYS!!! Hey some people may not like it, but ultimately it's what God wants and likes

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4/11/2006 5:04 pm

So, wanna push the ban button huh? That's okay, afterall, it's your own blog isn't it? You mentioned you were considering exposing who they were (publically exposing their sin, so to speak). That's okay also, you were given a free will and you can exercise your free will any which way you choose. Pauls thorn in the flesh; how did The Great Apostle handle his thorn? Did he ever mention his thorns name? Or did he name and expose the names of those who killed him more than once by stoning him? Did Jesus Christ ever once mentioned anything about his horrible beatings and sufferings on that tree? What happened when Canaan publically exposed to others Noah's sin? I am not saying anything in regard to banning someone; just cautioning "how" you do it. There is a biblical order in doing such things; which is often ignored. Just putting in my penny's worth of feedback as the others have done. BTW: Once you do what it is you decide to do, let it lie if you will. That way, the things of those to whom you make reference to, as well as 'other' things, will not keep contaminating the area's here on your blog(s) as well as your wonderful friends here. I go by the following rule to maintain my own integrity in the Lord: "Yesterday died at midnight, it doesn't exist any longer. The only thing I should bring into today from yesterday is Jesus Christ. Anything I bring into today from yesterday that is not christ only serves to contaminate my today". edjehu.

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7/3/2006 10:59 pm

My curiosity makes me want to ask who these people are. I also feel that if someone is truly and obviously outside of the Word of God (especially in regards to the Gospel) they should be named and given a chance to defend themselves (briefly). Banning may very well be the right thing to do, especially since it is within your individual power to do so. Collective banning will come only from exposure and a number of members sharing in some essentials of Christianity to delineate between the supposed false teaching (again, especially if it is gospel related). Each individual has their own right and power to ban, but not if attention is not called to the alleged false teachers and false teachings. If you do not want to give names... at least write a self-proclaimed 'anti-lesson' to set the false doctrine straight. I've done that before in my blog and lessons when I've written that, 'Some teach and believe...'.

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