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reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)
3/31/2006 5:19 am

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 It has been said here that babies go to Hell because they haven't accepted Christ as their Savior. I personally don't think that is true. Doesn't the Bible say somewhere that we are only held accountable for what we know? I believe that the Word says that Hell is reserved for those who reject Christ. How can a baby reject Christ? How can someone who never heard of Christ reject Him? I think that people who never heard of Christ, including babies will not go to Hell. I personally think that they will inhabit the New Earth but not be allowed to enter the New Jerusalem. Just my thoughts...
TeaKitty
(TeaKitty )
1178 posts 

3/31/2006 7:03 am

 Why do you think that they will not enter the new Jerusalem?
Just curious about your thought!
TeaKitty

thruitall

3/31/2006 7:30 am

 I would agree that babies do not go to hell. We read in II Samuel 12:23 about King David's infant son who died because of David's sin.

23] But now he is dead, Wherefore should I fast? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me. II Samuel 12:23

12:23 shall go to him. David's infant son, dead before he was able to discern right from wrong, was safe in Christ, together with the departed spirits of all who had died in true faith, resting in "Abraham's bosom" (Luke 16:22) and awaiting the coming of the promised Savior. David thus was confident he would be with his child in the ages to come, after the great resurrection day. He knew that he himself would "dwell in the house of the Lord forever" (Psalm 23:6) and so would his infant son.

appreciate
10003 posts 

3/31/2006 7:34 am

 God's grace, mercy and love ...it is His sovereignity to decide what will happen to babies...but I thought too about the accountable age scenario...God will always be just...thanks!
Man can make many plans...BUT it is the Lord who will direct his paths....

ahm9999
3 posts 

3/31/2006 7:49 am

 I thought the new earth was the new Jerusalem? Can you explain the difference between the two? Thanx

Rebekka

3/31/2006 7:53 am

 Sin is what sends one to hell! What sin can a child commit? A child doesn't know right from wrong until he/she is taught. Jesus has a heart for children. He says unless one comes to Him as a child, he can no way enter into the kingdom of heaven. Why does He say this? Because a child is pure, free from sin. THERE WILL BE NO BABIES IN HELL!

James 1 vs 17 "Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do, and does not do it, to him it is sin."

Mat 19:14 But Jesus said, "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto Me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."
Elizabeth

smtwngal

3/31/2006 10:01 am

 I don't know who said babies go to Hell but i don't see how that can possibly be true. They haven't learned about Christ yet. I agree with you on that comment reallysaved.

Sarridrina
(Julie )
15 posts 

3/31/2006 10:29 am

 Personally, I have no real convictions either was as far as those who have never heard. but an infant or even a child until they reach the age of accountability. (yes an adult who does not mature to where they truely do not know right from wrong can not be held accountable) will inherit the promises that we as christians have inherited. besides i think personally as a woman it would crush a mother to know that lost her infant or her young child. i think it would absolute devistate that mother to know that her child her flesh and blood is now in hell through no fault of their own but just because they didn't have the chance to live long enough. personally i would seriously have to question a God like that.

bsk1971
(Bryan Kimble)

3/31/2006 10:49 am

 I will let God's Word speak for me:
"Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it." Deuteronomy 1:39

ahm9999
3 posts 

3/31/2006 1:03 pm

 I agree with what Rebekka said!!

HolyFlame

3/31/2006 1:21 pm

 AMEN to bsk1971
Let the true word speak it.

TeaKitty
(TeaKitty )
1178 posts 

3/31/2006 1:39 pm

 I want to say thank you to those who posted such encouragiing things about babies. I have had two miscarriages. How can a baby sin within the womb? Yet, I know that I will see these two in Heaven. I know it's somewhere in the old Testament...Can't think of reference right now, maybe someone can come up with it.

God sees us in the womb. He knits our bones together......ect. And wasn't John the Baptist filled with the Holy Spirit within the womb?

Thanks all.
TeaKitty

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

3/31/2006 1:49 pm
    Quoting TeaKitty:
    Why do you think that they will not enter the new Jerusalem?
    Just curious about your thought!
    TeaKitty
Revelation 21 says, "Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life."

The people who have their name written in the Lamb's Book of Life are those who accepted Him as their Savior while here on earth, so I think that would exclude those who never heard of Him. Just my thoughts...

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

3/31/2006 1:52 pm
    Quoting thruitall:
    I would agree that babies do not go to hell. We read in II Samuel 12:23 about King David's infant son who died because of David's sin.

    23] But now he is dead, Wherefore should I fast? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me. II Samuel 12:23

    12:23 shall go to him    . David's infant son, dead before he was able to discern right from wrong, was safe in Christ, together with the departed spirits of all who had died in true faith, resting in "Abraham's bosom" (Luke 16:22) and awaiting the coming of the promised Savior. David thus was confident he would be with his child in the ages to come, after the great resurrection day. He knew that he himself would "dwell in the house of the Lord forever" (Psalm 23:6) and so would his infant son.
I understand what you are saying here, but I think "before Christ" needs to be separated from "after Christ" in this. Everyone who died before Christ got preached to after His death. I am talking about what happens to babies who have dies since Christ died.

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

3/31/2006 1:54 pm
    Quoting appreciate:
    God's grace, mercy and love ...it is His sovereignity to decide what will happen to babies...but I thought too about the accountable age scenario...God will always be just...thanks!
Yes, that is another theory, that they will go to heaven because of the accountability thing. I pray that is true! Thanks!

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

3/31/2006 1:56 pm
    Quoting ahm9999:
    I thought the new earth was the new Jerusalem? Can you explain the difference between the two? Thanx
No, they are different. The New Earth is the whole earth made new, incorruptible. The New Jerusalem is the new City of Jerusalem that comes down out of the sky and replaces the one that is there today. You can read about this in Revelation 21. Thanks for the question. I hope I answered it!

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

3/31/2006 1:58 pm
    Quoting Rebekka:
    Sin is what sends one to hell! What sin can a child commit? A child doesn't know right from wrong until he/she is taught. Jesus has a heart for children. He says unless one comes to Him as a child, he can no way enter into the kingdom of heaven. Why does He say this? Because a child is pure, free from sin. THERE WILL BE NO BABIES IN HELL!

    James 1 vs 17 "Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do, and does not do it, to him it is sin."

    Mat 19:14 But Jesus said, "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto Me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."
I like the verse that you quoted here in James. That makes sense to me. I think you are right! Thanks!

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

3/31/2006 1:58 pm
    Quoting smtwngal:
    I don't know who said babies go to Hell but i don't see how that can possibly be true. They haven't learned about Christ yet. I agree with you on that comment reallysaved.
Thanks! I appreciate your support!

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

3/31/2006 2:04 pm
    Quoting Sarridrina:
    Personally, I have no real convictions either was as far as those who have never heard. but an infant or even a child until they reach the age of accountability. (yes an adult who does not mature to where they truely do not know right from wrong can not be held accountable) will inherit the promises that we as christians have inherited. besides i think personally as a woman it would crush a mother to know that lost her infant or her young child. i think it would absolute devistate that mother to know that her child her flesh and blood is now in hell through no fault of their own but just because they didn't have the chance to live long enough. personally i would seriously have to question a God like that.
I agree with you here, Sarridrina. I don't think God would send babies to Hell.

I have said in other posts that I had an abortion when I was 19. I murdered my baby. I pray that God does not send my baby to Hell because of my sin. The Word says that the sins of the parents will no longer affect the children, so I don't see how He could. I also had a son, Joshua, who died in my arms when he was 2 weeks old. I can't imaging him going to Hell just because he wasn't old enough to make a choice.

That just doesn't sound like God to me, either. Thanks for your comments!

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)

3/31/2006 2:08 pm
    Quoting bsk1971:
    I will let God's Word speak for me:
    "Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it." Deuteronomy 1:39
Amen! Here we have from the Word of God, right from the Lord's mouth, that there is an "age of accountability"! Since Israel was a symbol of Heaven, I believe that children will be permitted in heaven, too! Hallelujah! I will see my babies again! Thank you, Lord! Thanks, bsk! I appreciate this word of encouragement!

ProdicalSon1963

3/31/2006 10:37 pm
    Quoting bsk1971:
    I will let God's Word speak for me:
    "Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it." Deuteronomy 1:39
I thought bsk1971 quote was important, so I took the liberty of giving an easier to understand translation.

And the little ones that you said would be taken captive, your children who do not yet know good from bad—they will enter the land. I will give it to them and they will take possession of it.

myrrh777
(PJ Z)
3789 posts 

4/2/2006 4:44 pm

 Almost 10 years after I would have an abortion, the love of my life, my baby son would die. For many years I struggled with wondering where their SOULS were. With the knowledge that they were BOTH innocent, I would eventually get this peace that supasses all understanding and I would be in COMPLETE peace. THANK YOU HOLY SPIRIT!!!
Myrrh777

Seranade

4/2/2006 9:39 pm

 Amen Jean, A great post , I agree that babies will inherit the kingdom of God....
This was a sore point in another blog I had posted on a few weeks ago,
So glad you brought it up,
thanks,
Netty

bsk1971
(Bryan Kimble)

4/3/2006 3:35 am

 reallysaved,
You are welcome. You will find that all my posts are based directly off the Bible or thoughts from it.
Bryan

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