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Mom4Jesus 56F
868 posts
4/28/2006 5:07 pm

Last Read:
10/8/2006 9:48 am

Why do Christian men lie?

I'm sitting here and I honestly cannot think why

what could possibly be a good reason

why?

Why do men who are genuinely Christians say they will do something and then don't

why has the spoken word and promises of the tongue no longer of value?

help me here, for I am a bit...I don't know but I wonder why the men I have met

GOOD, CHRISTIAN, SPIRIT FILLED MEN

why they do NOT follow through with their words

why there is such a lack of IMPORTANCE in keeping the promises made

I was raised different by a man who TRIES to keep promises...tries hard...doesn't always succeed, but gives it his best.

and the men in my life

they let us down by not valuing what they promise enough to keep their OWN promises

I give up
I throw in the towel
game over


4ewe 67F

4/28/2006 5:31 pm

well, my hope is that some Christian
stop by here and answer your question.
in the meantime, i offer my shoulder


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/28/2006 10:09 pm:
Thank you Sister...

I appreciate your shoulder!
and compassion
and kindness....

casturcares
(EMA )
59F

4/28/2006 5:32 pm

Cheryl,

Please don't give up. Take time out to recover, but don't give up unless you know it is what God is saying to you.

In reality I'm sure you realise that men are no different from women. I've heard a similar complaint from a man about women, including many other negative generalities he came up with.

We are fallen creation and behave appallingly sometimes. I am sad that you say they are spirit filled, good Christian men, because I'm sure that the Holy Spirit must be bringing conviction on them. So you have to trust God to handle that for you.

For the rest of us let us remind ourselves how important it is to keep your word, no matter how small it may seem.


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/28/2006 10:12 pm:
Thank you Edna
I'm praying hard tonight and praying to learn and grow and grow and learn

and to learn the same for me, you know?
to keep my word and not be careless with MY tongue..

rockyg
(Fred G)
63M

4/28/2006 6:32 pm

momma. not all christain men


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/28/2006 6:42 pm:
God help me, I hope not , Rocky

I hope that there ARE men that value what they say
and promises made
and that I just don't "know" them, you know?

my heart hurts so badly knowing that the men I "know" simply do not CARE enough...

I mean, WHY BE SO CARELESS with your words ?

if you say it, mean it
if you promise it, DO IT


Rocky Road,
I will correct my assumption by saying "not all"

Thank you for responding to my despair...

rockyg
(Fred G)
63M

4/28/2006 7:25 pm

i promise that i will never break a promise to you.


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/28/2006 10:14 pm:
well, I guess the easiest thing to do is never MAKE a promise to me

then it doesn't ever HAVE the chance of being broken

but I'm being a brat

thank you Rocky..

ProdicalSon1963 61M

4/28/2006 9:09 pm

Because they were phonies in the first place! At least with me, what you see is what you get! It aint much but there'll be surprises...lol


ProdicalSon1963 61M

4/28/2006 9:11 pm

Because their a bunch of phonies in the first place! At least with me, what you see is what you get! It aint much, but there'll be no surprises...lol


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/28/2006 10:16 pm:
Well, where it's no surprise ( )that I don't agree with you about them being phonies, I so appreciate that you are up front and honest with who and what you are.

God bless you, Prodigal...

heartofworship09
(H.J. )
55F
36 posts
4/28/2006 9:21 pm

HI Mom4Jesus,
You are not alone...I was also hurt by "good spirit-filled Christian man whom I trust and love..that's why it took me a long time to understand and let go. But God is so good and merciful so here I am in Big Church...not giving up! I know that there is still some whom we can trust. Just don't give up and give it to God...it will happen In God's perfect time.

keep trusting and trying sister! God Bless!
Harriette


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/29/2006 1:49 pm:
Thank you, Harriette.

I will trust in Him who designed me and formed the world with His breath.

I HAVE TO.

Be blessed!!

FaithGirl4Him 67F

4/28/2006 9:32 pm

Wow, I was just shedding tears over this very subject tonight as a matter of fact...............

It's been a rough year...

I too, throw in the towel.......


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/29/2006 1:46 pm:
Oh Girl,
I agree

PLEASE!! read what Marcos and Godly cook responded below. It meant SO MUCH TO ME!!!!

ProdicalSon1963 61M

4/28/2006 11:00 pm

    Quoting  :

Hey that's what I meant to say.....lol


Mom4Jesus replies on 5/17/2006 7:34 pm:
(grateful smile)

sensibledreamer
(Cath P)
60F

4/29/2006 1:06 am

Oh mom.. hope you find peace with this.
two things come to mind..
Is it possible for you to not hang out with people who do this anymore.. is that an option.. or at least not make any more agreements with them then you wont be disappointed.
Sometimes we give more meaning to an action than it deserves.. something like .. my girlfriend doesnt mind if a friend cancels an appointment with her.. she would rather the friend came because she wanted to rather than some feling of obligation.. so she doesnt flip out and think they are disrespecting her if they cancel.. me on the other hand thinks its rude and the person should be shot or at least do some prison time or community service.. how could they be so thoughtless and disrespectfull.. anyway when my girlfriend told me her view.. I kind of get her... and I put my gun away now.. LOL..
Hope this helps and you have a wonderful weekend.
Love Cath


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/29/2006 1:26 pm:
Thank you Cath,
I WILL have peace with this
I just have to process it...

Thank you..

Charity53076 47F

4/29/2006 2:19 pm

it makes me sick that men do this!!!!!
i wish i could give encourageing words but i cant,the truth of the matter is men r scum!!!!! plan and simple SCUM!!!!

Be Blessed in the name of our LORD JesusChristpoempoempoem


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/29/2006 8:18 pm:
I don't think they are scum, I just want them to think about what they say and NOT give promises UNLESS they plan on actually keeping them

I would rather they remain silent of promises than give a promise they don't intend to keep OR they don't care enough about to remember to keep it

The men in particular I am speaking of are NICE men
I am positive they are actually well intentioned
and the breaking of promises is not intentional

but I have to go back to what Godly Cook said at that is that who are ANY of us to promise ANYTHING, for we DON'T know what tomorrow brings

and what Marcos said...that God will never let us down...ever
so cling to God

people that DELIBERATELY LIE AND BREAK PROIMISES ARE ANOTHER CATEGORY (THAT YOU STATED) ALL TOGETHER..

Mom4Jesus

FaithGirl4Him 67F

4/29/2006 2:36 pm

Maybe we should start a club, lol ...


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/29/2006 8:19 pm:
I think we are already in one

called Christianity


rockyg
(Fred G)
63M

4/29/2006 6:43 pm

edj. i'm not one of those men, i don't think i have ever been, even in my terrible days, i always kept my word. i'm certain that i'm not now. i have given up on all things women. not as in "throwing in the towel" as the ladies here are doing, i still LOVE them, but as in "i'm spoken for otherwise."

it's funny, but this is the third time that i've said this in blogland tonight...and once in email.


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/29/2006 8:20 pm:
OH MY GOSH, REALLY???

CONGRATULATIONS, ROCKY!!!!

OH MY GOODNESS, THAT IS SUPER!!!!!!

rockyg
(Fred G)
63M

4/29/2006 6:44 pm

hey! isn't that meow's cat?


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/29/2006 8:21 pm:
Is it the same one?
He has quite a bit of cat pics..

rockyg
(Fred G)
63M

4/30/2006 9:07 pm

momma. no, not like that. i have made a committment to the lord for a while


Mom4Jesus replies on 4/30/2006 11:10 pm:
ohhhhhhhhhhhh
I misunderstood..

thank you for your clarification and THANK YOU for your being so incredibly genuine

Mom4Jesus

cynamun
(Cynthia Van Leir)
73F
145 posts
5/1/2006 11:39 am

I agree with Meow ....whenever I get ticked off with someone, eventually God reminds me of a time when I've let Him or someone else (same difference) down.

If any person is a consistent liar, I agree that 3 strikes is definitely an out! Sound like the term "passive agression" to anyone?

I don't think I'd categorize all men as liars. Not even most.


Mom4Jesus replies on 5/1/2006 1:12 pm:
Thank you, Cynamun..

4ewe 67F

5/1/2006 6:55 pm

just poppin' in to say...
hope you are gettin' there...

don't you just love rockyg's
genuiness


Mom4Jesus 56F

5/1/2006 9:56 pm

Thank you, 4EWE
I appreciate it

you know, I am much more at peace about it now
I was so FLAMING mad when I wrote the blog
but reading what everyone said
processing it all
getting it OUT
and working through it

I am so grateful for all the varied opinions here
very diverse people
and I gleaned SO MUCH Godly advice
and have truly been able to process it so much..

I could NOT stay where I was
and was TRULY blessed being able to vent here
and receive sound advice and wise counsel

and yes, I really appreciate how genuine Rocky G is...


4ewe 67F

5/2/2006 5:59 pm

    Quoting Mom4Jesus:
    Thank you, 4EWE
    I appreciate it

    you know, I am much more at peace about it now
    I was so FLAMING mad when I wrote the blog
    but reading what everyone said
    processing it all
    getting it OUT
    and working through it

    I am so grateful for all the varied opinions here
    very diverse people
    and I gleaned SO MUCH Godly advice
    and have truly been able to process it so much..

    I could NOT stay where I was
    and was TRULY blessed being able to vent here
    and receive sound advice and wise counsel

    and yes, I really appreciate how genuine Rocky G is...
cool. sure helps to vent, huh??
glad we could be here...
not that i did much except
'listen'


Mom4Jesus replies on 5/2/2006 8:04 pm:
you and I both know how valuable that is


Dundeal
(William Watson)
67M
18097 posts
5/2/2006 7:55 pm

hello cheryl, sorry for your pain and heartache and i will add you to my prayer list. as has been pointed out earlier not all men are like that and also pointed out women are guilty as well. i can only relate from my personal experience here. i put in my profile what i am doing here and yet others don't like that, why i don't know. i get in the chat room or through emails and the women want me to promise this or promise that. i will tell them up front, what i can do and what i can't do. sometimes it is not what they want to hear and they will keep it up. this may be the point where some men fail and finally lie just to get the women to be quiet, i don't know that for a fact but i know i have felt many times like giving in just because the women wouldn't accept my answer. thank God i am able to stick with my word regardless of whether they like it or not, but i am sure that others just give in and that is where i am sure that many women get hurt. i am also sure that it works the other way around also. anyway may the Lord richly bless you sister and give you peace, cheers

May the Lord bless you and keep you


Mom4Jesus replies on 5/3/2006 11:48 am:
Thank you for your thoughts and comments and advice, Dundeal
I appreciate your point of view..

Cheryl

Michelle334
(Michelle L)
53F

5/2/2006 8:49 pm

    Quoting  :

Imodel, this is a post all in itself. I have been there and fight not to go back there. I was on who gets out before they can ditch me I ditch first.. I thought this was for the best because I had been hurt before and just do not have any trust for men. But God showed me that i was losing out on what he has for me if I do not change and learn out to get rid of the bitterness, and pain I feel from my divorce I can not progress in another relationship. All of us are human and make mistakes... We have to learn to forgive and forget because holding on to all that only holds us in bondage not the person who has wronged us.

Mom4Jesus, keep stepping, and pray for that person... Pray and stay strong in the word of God... Blessings Gwen


Mom4Jesus replies on 5/3/2006 11:47 am:
Thank you Gwen..

Be blessed,
Cheryl

birdseye2 55F
152 posts
5/3/2006 12:32 pm

I heard my grandmother say many years ago "Man to Man is so unjust you don't know what one to trust. The word says that the arm of flesh will fail you every so often, but christ never will. Wishing you the best.


Mom4Jesus replies on 5/3/2006 2:10 pm:
Thank you, Birds Eye 2..

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)
65F

5/4/2006 5:09 am

I am so sorry that men have disappointed you. I also understand you wanting to throw in the towel. I did that just a few weeks before the Lord brought Ed into my life. Throwing in the towel will not tie God's hands, my sister. It may actually give Him room to work, as it did in my case. So, keep your chin up! Just my thoughts...


Mom4Jesus replies on 5/4/2006 7:04 am:
Thank you, Really Saved
I DO have someone in my life that I love
and yes, he lets me down, too
concerning this very issue

but Marcos and Godly Cook REALLY DID help me with this...

MEN WILL LET ME DOWN
PEOPLE WILL LET ME DOWN
it's our nature as fallen man
but God never will.

THANK YOU for your kind and supportive words, Sister!

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)
65F

5/4/2006 7:38 am

Mom4Jesus replies on 5/4/2006 7:04 am:
Thank you, Really Saved
I DO have someone in my life that I love
and yes, he lets me down, too
concerning this very issue

but Marcos and Godly Cook REALLY DID help me with this...

MEN WILL LET ME DOWN
PEOPLE WILL LET ME DOWN
it's our nature as fallen man
but God never will.

THANK YOU for your kind and supportive words, Sister!


The thing that perhaps you should look for, if I may, is a man who does the following:

1. he never hurts on purpose
2. he is very quick to ask forgiveness
2. if he hurts you in a certain way, he will do his best never to hurt you in that way again

This is the kind of person I look for to be married to or close friends with.

Just my thoughts...


Mom4Jesus replies on 5/17/2006 7:39 pm:
Thank you, Really Saved..

Mom4Jesus

fallenangel123
(angela unknown)
46F
5 posts
5/6/2006 10:43 am


A LOT OF MEN LIE IT IS THERE NATURE IT SEEMS BUT A LOT OF WOMAN DO AS WELL WHICH LEAVES THE HONEST CARING AND REAL WOMAN AND MEN NOT NOTICED IN MY OPINION PPL MUST GET OFF ON IT OR SOMETHING
GUESS SATAN RULES NOW DOESN'T HE IN A LOT MORE YOUR LIVES THEN YOU THINK


Mom4Jesus replies on 5/6/2006 4:49 pm:
We have a sin nature fallen one, that's true

but I hope to look beyond it, because God has already won the battle with satan...and satan knows it.

That's not the issue here
or maybe it is...hmmmmm?

Thank you for your thoughts,
Mom4JESUS