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IF SATURDAY IS THE SEVENTH DAY SABBATH......THEN WHY ?
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Today ( Saturday ) is the seventh day sabbath.......and according to those who say we must obey the law and keep it, that would mean we should not be performing any type of labor, until sunset today. That includes such things as: Carrying Burning Extinguishing Finishing Writing ( or typing ) Erasing Cooking Washing Sewing Tearing Knotting Untying Shaping Plowing Planting Reaping Harvesting Threshing Winnowing Selecting Sifting Grinding Kneading Combing Spinning Dyeing Chain-stitching Warping Weaving Unraveling Building Demolishing Trapping Shearing Slaughtering Skinning Tanning Smoothing Marking Not only are you prohibited from working, you are prohibited from doing anything that will cause the following people work. Your children Any employee or person who would serve you (this includes any stranger who would serve you). Any animal you own. Any non-Jewish person in your home. What was the penalty for violating the Sabbath ? " Say to the Israelites, 'You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it must be put to death; whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from his people. For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.Exodus 31:13 -15 Question: If today is the Sabbath..... why then is Claudia so busy typing ( writing ) several new post today ? She is in violation of the very law; she is telling everyone else they must keep. Not only is she working she is causing others to woke by respond to her post. Now should she be put to death, for violating the Sabbath ? No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7 |
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6/27/2009 9:09 am |
It does not say anything about prohibiting "communication"- in any from now does it? In fact- if we TYPE for PROFIT that would be WORK not relaxation. Yer list is not only BOGUS- it a sin all to itself TO JUDGE ANYONE ISN'T IT? Fool.  SO just as JESUS SAID- Ye do er in what yer saying here. If a person can not SPEAK- is it a SIN to use sign language on the SABBATH then too ya frickin pharisee? Loser. Ya spit venom but ya are SPITTING ON JESUS -- no one else. =) lunatic.No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 9:27 am |
It does not say anything about prohibiting "communication"- in any from now does it? In fact- if we TYPE for PROFIT that would be WORK not relaxation. Yer list is not only BOGUS- it a sin all to itself TO JUDGE ANYONE ISN'T IT? Fool. SO just as JESUS SAID- Ye do er in what yer saying here. If a person can not SPEAK- is it a SIN to use sign language on the SABBATH then too ya frickin pharisee? Loser. Ya spit venom but ya are SPITTING ON JESUS -- no one else. =) lunatic.NdnThomas and Ladylightwalker forever. .
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6/27/2009 9:40 am |
1Tm:1:5: Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: 1Tm:1:6: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; 1Tm:1: 7 : Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. WHAT???????????????????? You mean to say Paul,you mean to say that if you show charity from a pure heart and a good conscience and do it in faith you are fulfilling the law? You can't be saying that it isn't in the letter of the law,but in the spirit of love can you? GASP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can't also be saying here that those who do wish to be teachers of the law don't realise what their doing? That they don't understand what they're saying? Or what they're affirming? Wow! You know Paul, it seems to me you also say in other places in your writings that if you put yourself back under the law that you have fallen from grace. Ga:5:4: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Why,Oh why,when I see my life since knowing God's grace,do I see changes in me? And why is it that that old man of sin that I used to be controlled by, now has no domination over me? Why is it that when I got saved, I became a new creature in Christ and I see God's way of thinking and doing things more important to me than my own desires? And why is it if God is doing an effectual work in me, that there are those who insist that I trust in my ability to obey the law unto my justification before God? Why is it that they want me to put my trust in my ability to obey the letter of the law? Or why do they want me to mix my righteousness or adherance to the law with His righteousness for my justification? The law that did nothing for me but to condemn me? The law who's purpose was to show me how unworthy I was? The law who's purpose was to show me just how much I needed my Saviour Jesus Christ,without who, I would have no hope of ever being accepted by God? Why is it that they insist that God's grace in my life is not sufficient? Why do they forever try to bring me under the law,which has served its purpose in bringing me to place of trusting my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and what He did FOR me by His death burial and resurrection? Why is it that that is the ONLY thing that is acceptable to God for me to be accepted BY God? But it's not good enough for them? 2Co:4:3 KJV: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
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 6/27/2009 9:47 am |
Back in high school days, two twin girls in town were accepted for Air Canada flight attendant training. A few days before training began they quit. It seems mean, bad, nasty Air Canada had the nerve, the gall, the audacity to expect them to work on a Saturday!!! How silly. I work for a large national company that operates 24/7 every week, every month, every year. It's normal for me to work on Saturday, Sunday, holidays. Will I be banned from heaven for being a prompt, faithful, reliable worker even on weekends? I walk by faith. Nothing more. Obeying man made religious rules does not, and will not save me. Greetins from Calgary Alberta. Canada's wild west. I
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6/27/2009 9:49 am |
And I didn't see godlycooks post as being judgemental in the least. In fact it addressed the judgemental attitude of those who's trust is in their adherance to the law. How anyone could twist what he wrote around to say something he never said is amazing. Oh yeah, I almost forgot that's what scripture twisters do. They twist what what you say, set up a false strawman based on their twisting of what you say and then proceed to tear it down,thereby making themselves seem spriritual in the eyes of the simple. 2Co:4:3 KJV: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
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6/27/2009 10:20 am |
Gordy.......you and Claudia are the ones who insist that everyone keep the law. But you two are the BIGGEST VIOLATORS OF THE LAW !! Sabbath observance restricts all forms of labor except acts of mercy. Although my child could be in the same room with me, and we could communicate verbally, if I were to write a note and pass it to my child to read it, I would be in violation of the law. Makes no difference if I'm being paid for it or not. What Claudia is doing cannot be construed as an act of mercy. She is not rescuing ( or protecting ) the sheep, she is instead throwing them to the wolves. Some think its Ok to lie on the Sabbath, and I'll bet you're one of them. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 10:31 am |
Carrying------- Nope. If yer beast is in a pit- with a broke leg no less- yer justified to carry it out of the pit and to safety. Jesus told ya that- DIDN'T HE? Also we are not to carry goods from one place to another. That does NOT prohibit "carrying everything" as you poorly defined word shows here. But that does not make it ok to make the other beasts plow for ya or carry their harnesses etc. Burning ------ yup. Ya do not purposely do a fire so ya can cook on it, burn trash etc. That does not however prohibit ya from starting a fire before the SABBATH big enough to last THROUGH THE SABATH without tending it- as in "relaxing bonfire" outside that ya sit around for fellowship and worship/honoring God with songs etc during the dark hours after sundown on Friday. Yer just too much of a pharisee to understand JESUS is all.  Extinguishing ---------- Nope. If yer neighbors house is on fire- yer a sinner and do not love yer neighbor if ya DO NOT HELP PUT IT OUT. Finishing ------ define "finishing"- since that could be almost anything. Writing ( or typing ) Nope. There is no prohibition there at all. NONE. Erasing ---- Nope. No prohibition in context of "writing". Cooking----- Yep. Supposed to make enough the day before so ya don't have to do that on the sabbath. Washing---- washing what? Too broad a term to even know what yer talking about. Ya CAN WASH YER HANDS and that is not prohibited- but not yer clothes- etc. Sewing For profit- correct. For pleasure- not prohibited. Tearing ---------- what would ya be tearing? MIGHT be prohibited if DEFINED as to what yer tearing- Knotting --- for what purpose? to help get the beast out of the pit? Nearly ALL of yer words here are NOT PROHIBITED under certain conditions... Untying----------- nope. wrong if yer beast from the pit needs untying after removal from the pit Shaping ---- a nonsense word that has no prohibition since unless it is for PROFIT it is not prohibited You can shape a childs education in the scriptures but then you failed to DEFINE yer meanings Plowing prohibited Planting prohibited Reaping prohibited Harvesting prohibited Threshing prohibited Winnowing prohibited Selecting ---- Nope. Not prohibited - too general a term without definition. You can SELECT a single or multiple children out of your surroundings (and not others ) to come sit and listen to ya teach and selecting would then NOT be prohibited Sifting prohibited Grinding prohibited Kneading prohibited Combing Nope. Not prohibited if a child needs HAIR combed for some reason- but then again- the word has several meanings- define it. Spinning prohibited ------ unless done by children- as in on a toy of some sort Dyeing prohibited Chain-stitching prohibited IF FOR PROFIT not relaxation Warping etc etc etc Weaving etc etc etc Unraveling etc etc etc Building Prohibited Demolishing prohibited Trapping Prohibited Shearing Without cause- prohibited. But if the sheep is stuck in the thorns and thistles- you can loose it and not be "shearing" for profit- Slaughtering prohibited Skinning prohibited Tanning As in tanning leather- prohibited Smoothing Too broad a word to be all inclusively prohibited Marking - again too broad of a word As we can all see- Some things are indeed prohibited based upon the idea of work vs rest. Yet Jesus and The Father showed us what the word WORK didn't mean. Jesus also showed us LEGAL EXCEPTIONS THE THAT IDEA OF WORK- as well as helped define REST. Part of the reason the pharisees had such strict interpretations as they DID- was because they didn't want to take chances in defining something as OK that God would then JUDGE THEM HARSHLY FOR. Jesus showed us that GOD IS NOT STUPID. But MEN ARE. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 11:23 am |
Hi, here's some scripture: Galatians 5:22-23 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:16, 5:18, 5:25 16So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. And here's more: Romans 7: 7 7What shall we say, then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! Indeed I would not have known what sin was except through the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "Do not covet." 
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6/27/2009 11:45 am |
Hi, here's some scripture: Galatians 5:22-23 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:16, 5:18, 5:25 16So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. And here's more: Romans 7: 7 7What shall we say, then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! Indeed I would not have known what sin was except through the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "Do not covet." No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 12:18 pm |
Yup. yer wanting to play word games here- that is why your list was so ambiguous. As for "correcting someone" I didn't TRY to correct anyone I SHOWED THESE FOLKS READING HERE THAT YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG TO BEGIN WITH. As for being an EXPERT- I believe JESUS WAS ONE- and HE CORRECTED YOU BUT YOU PISSED ALL OVER HIS STUFF HERE AGAIN. Screw you satan- yer no different here than ya was in the garden. YA REALLY THINK FOLKS CAN'T SEE YER STUPIDITY NOW? Loser. Looks like you missed that one too. Somebody get a big rock !!! No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 1:44 pm |
The part about "not writing a note"- FALSE DOCTRINE. But even if it were NOT FALSE DOCTRINE- WE WOULD KNOW IT WAS PROHIBITED AND NOT DO IT. Yer just as STUPID as ya ever was godlesscook. I DO know the LAWS as it is WRITTEN OUT FOR US AS WELL AS ON THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO FEAR AND OBEY HIM. But you go on and keep telling folks NO ONE CAN KEEP THE LAWS. Of course not- THEY DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT GOD'S LAWS ARE OR WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT NOR DO THEY CARE. Just like YOU. IGNORANT LOSER.  No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 1:54 pm |
Hello, here's more: Galatians 6:12-14 12Those who want to make a good impression outwardly are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ. 13Not even those who are circumcised obey the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your flesh. 14May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
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6/27/2009 4:37 pm |
Nope I'm NOT Jesus- But JESUS SAID- "easy and light" and that what HE DID WE CAN DO AND EVEN BETTER THAN HE DID. HE KEPT THE LAW AND SAID I CAN TOO. SO I OBEY HIM and follow HIS WORDS AND KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. EASY AND LIGHT. YA NEVER SIN AND YA NEVER MAKE EXCUSES LIKE YOU HAVE TO. I DO know the LAW and DO Obey them PERFECTLY. Jesus said I could. And I BELIEVE JESUS- not an IDIOT SINNER LIKE YOU. I LOVE IT when you equate ME with YOU and say I CAN NOT DO WHAT YOU CAN NOT DO. You CAN'T DO IT CUZ YOU WILL NEVER OBEY GOD IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU EVEN SAY YA DON'T HAVE TO OBEY AND THEN TRY TO TELL ME I'M A SINNER FOR OBEYING GOD. Go cut and paste for us where I have EVER SAID THAT JESUS NEVER HAD TO SAVE ANYONE. Cuz I NEVER said that and I have NEVER BELIEVED THAT. For You to make such a scurrilous SUGGESTION EVEN is to PROVE THAT YOU ARE FULLY SATANIC. HE's the one telling ya that kind of CRAP and YOU KEEP REPEATING IT. Howscome? Ya SAY yer SAVED- yet YA DO NOT DO WHAT JESUS SAID TO DO. SO yer a FRAKKIN LIAR about BEING SAVED AND ABOUT THE LAWS OF GOD. Only SATAN would EVER LIE THE WAY YOU DO. Just as the BIBLE SAYS- IF YA SIN YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL. Lets REPEAT IT SO YOU GET IT STRAIGHT- IF YOU SIN YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL. And YOU- you CONFESS WITH THAT MOUTH OF YOURS THAT GOD CAN NOT KEEP YA LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD. Yer more than HAPPY TO BRAG THAT YER A SINNER WHO WILL NEVER QUIT. AND YA TRY TO TEACH OTHERS THAT IF THEY DO NOT SIN THEY ARE SINNERS TOO ANYWAY. HUH? IF I DO NOT SIN I AM STILL A SINNER BY OBEYING GOD PERFECTLY IN HIS CARE AND KEEPING????? Only SATAN would ever try to get God's people to believe THAT TRASH. Ya frakkin SATANIST. God saved me through HIS SON JESUS. I don't NEED to be "saved" by an asshole satanist who TELLS ME GOD IS GUNNA WINK AND PAT ME ON THE BACK IF I STOP OBEYING HIM AND BECOME A SINNER ALL OVER AGAIN. Yer so utterly full of CRAP that it's a wonder you can breathe. I NEVER said "I CAN SAVE MYSELF" and never WOULD say it OR think it- BUT LOOK AT YOU TRYING TO IMPRESS YOUR SINNER BUDDIES HERE- EVEN SUGGESTING I'D SAY SUCH A THING. Yer just STUPID, DECEPTIVE ON PURPOSE and fully satanic is all. Ya can LIE ALL YA LIKE- and I will NEVER believe anything other than what JESUS ONLY AND ONLY JESUS SAID, DID, AND IS. Member that part there ya old forgetful satanist? "JESUS ONLY AND ONLY JESUS". You ain't even whale slime- not even TRYING to be a "good decent CHRISTIAN" can't even BE a good decent CHRISTIAN BY YOUR OWN CONFESSION. Satan OWNS YA- and ya teach nothing BUT what SATAN TAUGHT FIRST. "DISOBEDIENCE to GOD'S LAWS IS RIGHTEOUS NOW SO DISOBEY ALL YA LIKE- GOD WILL FORGIVE YA NO MATTER WHAT THE LAW SAYS. Ignorant loser. Stop with the you can too. No one can do what Jesus did. Jesus' sole purpose of coming to earth, was to save men ( you can't even save yourself ). How did He do it ? He fulfilled the law on their behalf, and shed His own Blood to guarantee the forgiveness of their sins. You are nothing more than a BIG FAT HYPOCRITE ........A SELF RIGHTEOUS FOOL. You accuse everyone else of being sinners, and just as the Pharisee who prayed about himself " God I thank Thee that I'm not like all other men.." you will not be justified. Only the humble, those who beat their breast, and confess their sin, will be justified before God. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 9:44 pm |
Oh, why not share a couple more... Galatians 5:14-15 14The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." 15If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
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6/28/2009 5:05 am |
It's almost beyond belief it's been twisted around that now godly cook is the one accused of teaching law and works for salvation? And now is even being accused of saying that his laws are better than God's laws? And just to put a cherry on top of this wonderful concoction of lies he is accused of teaching he is fully responsible to teach us how to get to heaven because Jesus didn't do good enough a job? It surely would take a very sick and offended carnal nature to take offense at the things godlycook has posted recently about the grace of God. You know, the disrespect on a personal level in this forum is unreal. And you know, godlycook has posted some things occasionally here that I didn't agree with. But due to the constant vicious attacks by these scripture twisters everytime he posts anything, it has made it impossible for me to raise any questions in a civil manner without confusing the post even more and making it seem at the time that it's an addition to the attack. And I also observe that when he posts something about God's grace according to the word of God he is attacked by these, who's carnal, fleshly natures are offended by God's grace. And their attacks are designed to attack the grace of God by attacking godlycooks flesh. You see, the word of God tells us that the Spirit wars against the flesh and that the flesh is at enmity against the Spirit. And that is what's been going on in this forum. You know too, that as christians, when we see a brother stick his neck on the line for the truth of the gospel of the grace of God and see him being attacked, we SHOULD take our stand with him for that gospel. I for one would like to make a publick stand for this man and his courage to come here against all kinds of fleshly opposition, and say that I stand with him in the truth of the gospel. The gospel that states that no man is justified in the site of God by the law. The gospel that tells us that ALL men are sinners and stand guilty before a holy and righteous God. The gospel which was given and revealed to the apostle Paul which tells us of a salvation that is ours AS A GIFT from God. The gospel that tells us that believing Jesus Christ and trusting what he did on that cross, dying for the penalty of our sin and in exchange GIVING us HIS righteousness in EXCHANGE is the ONLY thing that makes us acceptable in and to God. godlycook : I think that some here are trying to get you to sink to their level of name calling and personal insult to discredit you. But not only you but to discredit the truth of the gospel. But stick to the word. Don't fall into their temptations to bring you to their level of being a brawler. And who knows? Someday we may be able to come to a place where we can discuss and have a civil exchanging of ideas in this marketplace of ideas. Wouldn't that be refreshing? Grace and Peace to you godlycook and to all that are trusting in our Lord's precious blood that he spilled to pay the price for our sin. 2Co:4:3 KJV: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
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6/28/2009 5:13 am |
1Th:5:8: But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 1Th:5:9: For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1Th:5:10: Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 1Th:5:11: Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. 1Th:5:12: And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; 1Th:5:13: And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves. 2Co:4:3 KJV: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
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6/28/2009 8:20 am |
I just banned Gory aka Gordy ( I'm sure he'll reappear as someone else ).....its useless trying to communicate with him, he continuously lies, twist what others say, is disrespectful , vulgar, attacks the character of others and is a blasphemer. I should have banned him long ago, but I was letting him make a fool of himself for all to see. He's a devil for sure and I hope that I was at least successful at exposing him as such. If I have offended any innocent bystanders while attacking him, please forgive me. Even though I called him a few names.......I never became vulgar ( I managed to keep my language clean ), as I attempted to give him a taste of his own medicine. Gordy seems to get a kick out of using foul language. Surly, the Spirit of God has never taken control of him ( or her ) , because Gordy clearly can't control his own tongue. Again, if I have offended anyone ( with the exception of Gory ) please forgive me. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/28/2009 8:31 am |
It's almost beyond belief it's been twisted around that now godly cook is the one accused of teaching law and works for salvation? And now is even being accused of saying that his laws are better than God's laws? And just to put a cherry on top of this wonderful concoction of lies he is accused of teaching he is fully responsible to teach us how to get to heaven because Jesus didn't do good enough a job? It surely would take a very sick and offended carnal nature to take offense at the things godlycook has posted recently about the grace of God. You know, the disrespect on a personal level in this forum is unreal. And you know, godlycook has posted some things occasionally here that I didn't agree with. But due to the constant vicious attacks by these scripture twisters everytime he posts anything, it has made it impossible for me to raise any questions in a civil manner without confusing the post even more and making it seem at the time that it's an addition to the attack. And I also observe that when he posts something about God's grace according to the word of God he is attacked by these, who's carnal, fleshly natures are offended by God's grace. And their attacks are designed to attack the grace of God by attacking godlycooks flesh. You see, the word of God tells us that the Spirit wars against the flesh and that the flesh is at enmity against the Spirit. And that is what's been going on in this forum. You know too, that as christians, when we see a brother stick his neck on the line for the truth of the gospel of the grace of God and see him being attacked, we SHOULD take our stand with him for that gospel. I for one would like to make a publick stand for this man and his courage to come here against all kinds of fleshly opposition, and say that I stand with him in the truth of the gospel. The gospel that states that no man is justified in the site of God by the law. The gospel that tells us that ALL men are sinners and stand guilty before a holy and righteous God. The gospel which was given and revealed to the apostle Paul which tells us of a salvation that is ours AS A GIFT from God. The gospel that tells us that believing Jesus Christ and trusting what he did on that cross, dying for the penalty of our sin and in exchange GIVING us HIS righteousness in EXCHANGE is the ONLY thing that makes us acceptable in and to God. godlycook : I think that some here are trying to get you to sink to their level of name calling and personal insult to discredit you. But not only you but to discredit the truth of the gospel. But stick to the word. Don't fall into their temptations to bring you to their level of being a brawler. And who knows? Someday we may be able to come to a place where we can discuss and have a civil exchanging of ideas in this marketplace of ideas. Wouldn't that be refreshing? Grace and Peace to you godlycook and to all that are trusting in our Lord's precious blood that he spilled to pay the price for our sin. Praise the LORD our Father for sending His Son......Glory to our KING. Amen. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/28/2009 8:33 am |
1Th:5:8: But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 1Th:5:9: For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1Th:5:10: Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 1Th:5:11: Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. 1Th:5:12: And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; 1Th:5:13: And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/28/2009 10:20 am |
Glory to God indeed my friend ! I'm glad you have banned him. And I'm also sure that he will go do his own post in a further attempt at what he seems to do best, which would be slander and distract from the true gospel of the grace of our Lord. Be that as it may. My only hope is that this last little episode will have opened some peoples eyes concerning the underhanded tactics and the never ending straw man arguments. I for one wish for all men to see the manifold wisdom of our Lord. My wish is for all men to see just what Jesus Christ gained FOR us by what he did on that cross. And what He did for us by raising up from that grave. I want all men to see just who we are in Christ. When men come to realize exactly who they are in Christ then they don't have to worry about doing works or doing things according to the law for justification. When men trust God and trust the way that he provided through the death,burial and resurrection of His precious son and they come to really know who they are in Christ, then all those things of the flesh will be put down by the Spirit that dwells in us that wars against the flesh. It all come down to where we put our eyes. Where is our focus? Is it on our flesh? Or is it on the Spirit? Big difference. Not only big but crucial. So lets see if we can get back to telling people about the love and grace of our Lord shall we, and look at these things that have transpired lately for what they are. And that is a deliberate distraction from the truth of the word of God. And a distraction from the simplicity of the gospel that saves us today. Any way godlycook, my name is Michael, most call me Mike, many online just call me arch. Either one is fine by me. Some online over the years have taken offense by my archangel handle. So in case there are some here that do also,let me say that NO, I do not think I am " THE " archangel of the bible. And where ever you may see me online, you will see my handle ALWAYS will be lower case. I know .It sounded kinda funny of me to make that point but believe it or not, I have been accused of it . HAHAHA But on the other hand, I have come across some that have used that handle and DO REALLY think that they are. But seeing what some of the things you have heard on this site alone you probably wouldn't find that very hard to believe. JUST TOO FUNNY SOMETIMES ISN'T IT? And sometimes it's just too sad too. So, godlycook what is your real name? 2Co:4:3 KJV: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
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6/28/2009 11:22 am |
And one other thing. gooday2praise The scriptures you used during all of this were VERY befitting and in context to what was going on. I just wanted you to know that they didn't go unnoticed. I see from them you get the point and I also see that you are one who studies the scriptures to see what is being told to you is so according to the word. Good job. Keep studying! 2Tm:2:15: Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. --------------------------------------------------------------- 2Tm:2:16 : But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. My, haven't we seen a lot of this lately !!!! Especially from the one who was banned ! He is the king of vain and profane babblings! ---------------------------------- And let me put a thought in your head or rather a statement by the one who claimed to hold the "office" of the gentiles. Ro:11:13: For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: You know, that office that some claim is from the devil? But this is the thing I want you to think and meditate upon. This statement from Paul : 2Tm:2: 7 : Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things. Is Paul saying that our understanding of all things including the gospel of the grace of God and who we are in Christ lays in the things he writes to us being the one who held the office of the gentiles? I believe that that is exactly what he is saying and if it is so, we best take heed to that statement. And y'now there are those out there that love to discredit the truth of the grace of God by accusing that we worship Paul and they worship Jesus Christ. It's an asinine straw man argument designed to discredit the gospel. Paul was simply the vessel that GOD CHOSE. God's choice. We don't worship Paul. Our worship belongs to Our Father and Our Lord Jesus Christ ONLY,ONLY,ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What we do is acknowledge,respect and honour the DECISION that God made in giving Paul the "office" of the gentiles. We respect the "office". And we respect the words that came out of that office which states IF we consider what Paul says to us as the one who holds that office, that the Lord will give understanding in ALL things. You know, that Paul never lifted himself up. He knew who he was in the flesh. He knew that in his flesh dwelleth NO good thing. But what Paul DID do is magnify his "office" And above all, Paul magnified the Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. Never let anyone tell you because you go to the apostle of the gentiles for the doctrine of salvation to the gentiles, that you are placing Paul above Jesus. Enough rambling for now. Grace and Peace,archangel 2Co:4:3 KJV: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
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6/28/2009 11:34 am |
And one other thing. gooday2praise The scriptures you used during all of this were VERY befitting and in context to what was going on. I just wanted you to know that they didn't go unnoticed. I see from them you get the point and I also see that you are one who studies the scriptures to see what is being told to you is so according to the word. Good job. Keep studying! 2Tm:2:15: Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. --------------------------------------------------------------- 2Tm:2:16 : But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. My, haven't we seen a lot of this lately !!!! Especially from the one who was banned ! He is the king of vain and profane babblings! ---------------------------------- And let me put a thought in your head or rather a statement by the one who claimed to hold the "office" of the gentiles. Ro:11:13: For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: You know, that office that some claim is from the devil? But this is the thing I want you to think and meditate upon. This statement from Paul : 2Tm:2: 7 : Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things. Is Paul saying that our understanding of all things including the gospel of the grace of God and who we are in Christ lays in the things he writes to us being the one who held the office of the gentiles? I believe that that is exactly what he is saying and if it is so, we best take heed to that statement. And y'now there are those out there that love to discredit the truth of the grace of God by accusing that we worship Paul and they worship Jesus Christ. It's an asinine straw man argument designed to discredit the gospel. Paul was simply the vessel that GOD CHOSE. God's choice. We don't worship Paul. Our worship belongs to Our Father and Our Lord Jesus Christ ONLY,ONLY,ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What we do is acknowledge,respect and honour the DECISION that God made in giving Paul the "office" of the gentiles. We respect the "office". And we respect the words that came out of that office which states IF we consider what Paul says to us as the one who holds that office, that the Lord will give understanding in ALL things. You know, that Paul never lifted himself up. He knew who he was in the flesh. He knew that in his flesh dwelleth NO good thing. But what Paul DID do is magnify his "office" And above all, Paul magnified the Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. Never let anyone tell you because you go to the apostle of the gentiles for the doctrine of salvation to the gentiles, that you are placing Paul above Jesus. Enough rambling for now. Grace and Peace,archangel Thanks!
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6/28/2009 1:08 pm |
My name is Steven ( or Steve ). I've been called other names ( as you can tell ) and expect it will continue. Followers of Jesus can expect to be called many things. I just put up a new post in response to Claudia. God bless you Mike. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/28/2009 2:09 pm |
I've been called other names(as you can tell) Oh man, that is just way too funny. You made me laugh out loud here with that one. Count it glory. Count it glory !!!!!! And don't let them ever steal your sense of humour. Grace and Peace Steven 2Co:4:3 KJV: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
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6/28/2009 4:08 pm |
I've been called other names(as you can tell) Oh man, that is just way too funny. You made me laugh out loud here with that one. Count it glory. Count it glory !!!!!! And don't let them ever steal your sense of humour. Grace and Peace Steven No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/28/2009 8:32 pm |
Hey, just had to come back and check that I didn't Spell Glory as Gory. hahahahahahaha 2Co:4:3 KJV: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
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6/29/2009 6:21 am |
its hard for you to kick against the goad..
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6/29/2009 9:16 am |
I realize that some folk's intentions here are to provoke a reponse by " goading " your flesh, and if they are sucessful at that and you make a fleshly response then they have accomplished what they set out to do, which is to make your reaction discredit the truth you have stated. Nice try. 2Co:4:3 KJV: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
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6/29/2009 9:29 am |
Oh, by the way godlycook. I saw a post where you talked about a little boy playing hide and seek but couldn't ever think of a good place to hide and is easily found. And then keeps playing it thinking no-one can see him. So true. 2Co:4:3 KJV: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
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8/1/2009 6:14 pm |
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
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