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godlycook
10/27/2008 9:49 pm
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How many of you conservative Christians here, are familiar with the group of Republicans; who make up the organization called " CHOICE " ? A group of about 500 Republican; elected or appointed officials, who strongly support a woman's right to choose, to have an abortion.
No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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1893 posts 10/27/2008 11:08 pm |
I have not heard of them. I feel that there are very few in our government that really represent us of pro-life persuasion anymore. Many Republicans seem no different than there Democrat counterparts.
Let your gentleness be evident to all. Philippians 4:5
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10/28/2008 12:48 am |
They are so small a voice that they will never change the Republican platform on abortion! Nice try Steve to try and jusify your voting the Democratic ticket and how Senator Barak Obama and just about evey other key democrat are in favor keeping the slauter going it's part of their platform always has and always will be. They are also the party that embraces the homosexual agenda to legalise marriage for them and have it taught to our very impressionable youth at the grade school levels as an acceptable and viable lifestyle when they grow up and marry.
Everyone should be doing all they can to prevent the continual deaths of the fetus [latin for little one] in the mothers womb, 49,000,000 since 1973 thus far and a national tragety, and to stop the gay activists from redifing marriage and having this abomination [God's word not mine] taught to our very impressionable children as it already is being done in Massatushits with grade schoolers having to read "the king marrys a king". These issues become the law of the land in through the Supreme courts rulings as roe vs wade has shown and taught us and it's only a matter of time before "gay marriage" is before the court as almost every state in the union is having to amend their state constutions or vote on this issue.
We as christians can only hope and pray that another abortion case will reach that court and reverse the liberal Warren court ruling of 1973. This will not happen though should Barak Obama be elected as president because he is the most liberal Senator in the Senate in supporting a womans right to chose and has said many times he'll never budge when it comes to allowing for abortion. The next President will more than likely be able to nominate from 1 to 3 new Supreme court judges as one is 88 yrs old and 4 others are in their 70's and as we all know this is a lifetime appointment so whoever that president is will be shaping the court for the next 20 to 30 years and you better believe Barak Obama and his Democratic party will be wanting judges that think like them in their idologies and will nominate only those who will continue the slauter of the innocent children in their mothers wombs and open the door to a gay perverse lifestlye being taught to those fortunate to be born.
Obama has said he would not have a lipmus test for any appointee but he also said he wasn't aware of Rev jeramiah Wright's racial hate sermons but that was a lie too he not only knew but was in his church listning to him speak one summer's night afew years ago which I can document if needed for any that don't take my word about this. Comrade Obama will nominate only the most liberal judges to continue the socialists agendas of the very left leaning Democratic party platform and why shouldn't he he will have full controll of a majority Senate at his disposal that will accept any man or woman of his chosing.
It's time for christians to wake up and make a choice as Joshua did..."as for me and my house we will serve the Lord" and come out from amoung the godless agenda of the Democratic party which is leading us down the road to socialism and God's sure judgement!

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5722 posts 10/28/2008 1:09 am |
Yes Steve, i am a Conservative Christian but i live in Australia and i do follow what is going on around the globe, but i have not heard of choice, only the fact Americans have that in early November
Gods way is my way,...Clay
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5803 posts 10/28/2008 5:20 am |
Steve I am not a Republican. I am a conservative. Basically I have a choice when I vote of which better represents me. I am disgusted with the Republican Party outside of a handful of people. But its overall base of beliefs is much better.
The democratic party started out off the KKK and baptists. Thats a fact. The old blue collar dems are ok but they have went by the wayside. Being that you are a Black Man, I find it amazing that you would even consider being a democrat. Reasn is, and congressional records prove this. The Republican Party is what pushed and gave you the right to vote as the democrats were against it. Civil rights were given to you because of the Reuplicans as democrats opposed that. Slavery was taken down by Republicans lead by Abraham Lincoln.
Your biggest leader, Martin Luther King was a registered Republican. I am trying to think of Mr Washingtons first name but he was also a Republican.
Blacks get sucked into thinking socialism and programs are for them. They think the little guy is protected by the Democrats and that is the farthest thing from the truth.
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13881 posts 10/28/2008 5:35 am |
Ok, so I don't check this info. out and just take it at face value that there are some Republicans that don't think pro-life. I sort of figured that and also that there are some democrats who are pro-life. Of course. The republicans however, are predominantly opposed to abortion as well opposed to promoting the homosexual lifestyle. It has caused many to hate them and many to love them. These major issues usually do.
From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda  
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3221 posts 10/28/2008 5:59 am |
Quoting Tropical_Man: Steve I am not a Republican. I am a conservative. Basically I have a choice when I vote of which better represents me. I am disgusted with the Republican Party outside of a handful of people. But its overall base of beliefs is much better.
The democratic party started out off the KKK and baptists. Thats a fact. The old blue collar dems are ok but they have went by the wayside. Being that you are a Black Man, I find it amazing that you would even consider being a democrat. Reasn is, and congressional records prove this. The Republican Party is what pushed and gave you the right to vote as the democrats were against it. Civil rights were given to you because of the Reuplicans as democrats opposed that. Slavery was taken down by Republicans lead by Abraham Lincoln.
Your biggest leader, Martin Luther King was a registered Republican. I am trying to think of Mr Washingtons first name but he was also a Republican.
Blacks get sucked into thinking socialism and programs are for them. They think the little guy is protected by the Democrats and that is the farthest thing from the truth.
If McCain were running as a Democrat, would you vote for him ?
No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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3221 posts 10/28/2008 6:00 am |
Quoting YOUNG53M: I have not heard of them. I feel that there are very few in our government that really represent us of pro-life persuasion anymore. Many Republicans seem no different than there Democrat counterparts.
That's my point.......there is no differance.
No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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3221 posts 10/28/2008 6:07 am |
Quoting gregduncan: They are so small a voice that they will never change the Republican platform on abortion! Nice try Steve to try and jusify your voting the Democratic ticket and how Senator Barak Obama and just about evey other key democrat are in favor keeping the slauter going it's part of their platform always has and always will be. They are also the party that embraces the homosexual agenda to legalise marriage for them and have it taught to our very impressionable youth at the grade school levels as an acceptable and viable lifestyle when they grow up and marry.
Everyone should be doing all they can to prevent the continual deaths of the fetus [latin for little one] in the mothers womb, 49,000,000 since 1973 thus far and a national tragety, and to stop the gay activists from redifing marriage and having this abomination [God's word not mine] taught to our very impressionable children as it already is being done in Massatushits with grade schoolers having to read "the king marrys a king". These issues become the law of the land in through the Supreme courts rulings as roe vs wade has shown and taught us and it's only a matter of time before "gay marriage" is before the court as almost every state in the union is having to amend their state constutions or vote on this issue.
We as christians can only hope and pray that another abortion case will reach that court and reverse the liberal Warren court ruling of 1973. This will not happen though should Barak Obama be elected as president because he is the most liberal Senator in the Senate in supporting a womans right to chose and has said many times he'll never budge when it comes to allowing for abortion. The next President will more than likely be able to nominate from 1 to 3 new Supreme court judges as one is 88 yrs old and 4 others are in their 70's and as we all know this is a lifetime appointment so whoever that president is will be shaping the court for the next 20 to 30 years and you better believe Barak Obama and his Democratic party will be wanting judges that think like them in their idologies and will nominate only those who will continue the slauter of the innocent children in their mothers wombs and open the door to a gay perverse lifestlye being taught to those fortunate to be born.
Obama has said he would not have a lipmus test for any appointee but he also said he wasn't aware of Rev jeramiah Wright's racial hate sermons but that was a lie too he not only knew but was in his church listning to him speak one summer's night afew years ago which I can document if needed for any that don't take my word about this. Comrade Obama will nominate only the most liberal judges to continue the socialists agendas of the very left leaning Democratic party platform and why shouldn't he he will have full controll of a majority Senate at his disposal that will accept any man or woman of his chosing.
It's time for christians to wake up and make a choice as Joshua did..."as for me and my house we will serve the Lord" and come out from amoung the godless agenda of the Democratic party which is leading us down the road to socialism and God's sure judgement!
Greg....... you need to do two things.
1. One take off those rose colored glasses, so you can see.
2. Pay attention to what I've been saying. Our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the powers and principalities in the heavenly realms. You're fighting in the wrong battle field.
You are trusting in the are of the flesh, to bring about moral change....... it'll never work.
No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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3221 posts 10/28/2008 6:12 am |
Quoting Tropical_Man: Steve I am not a Republican. I am a conservative. Basically I have a choice when I vote of which better represents me. I am disgusted with the Republican Party outside of a handful of people. But its overall base of beliefs is much better.
The democratic party started out off the KKK and baptists. Thats a fact. The old blue collar dems are ok but they have went by the wayside. Being that you are a Black Man, I find it amazing that you would even consider being a democrat. Reasn is, and congressional records prove this. The Republican Party is what pushed and gave you the right to vote as the democrats were against it. Civil rights were given to you because of the Reuplicans as democrats opposed that. Slavery was taken down by Republicans lead by Abraham Lincoln.
Your biggest leader, Martin Luther King was a registered Republican. I am trying to think of Mr Washingtons first name but he was also a Republican.
Blacks get sucked into thinking socialism and programs are for them. They think the little guy is protected by the Democrats and that is the farthest thing from the truth.
Dennis you haven't been paying attention either. I don't know how many times I've said, I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a liberal........I don't support either party. They are both the same to me. DEVILS !!!!
No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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22476 posts 10/28/2008 1:05 pm |
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What is the wise and Godly choice?
What is the ignorant and satanic choice?
Which is one to choose if there is no wise and Godly choice?
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True or FALSE ?
Without a personal and intimate relationship with God, how can you ever realize the true identity and person of God?
Continue to be faithful, deliverance is near, obedience must be seen, be an unconditional blessing as He continues to bless you.
This time is short, serve Him well, serving all.
Without exception.
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For me to live is Christ and to die is gain.
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2253 posts 10/28/2008 3:19 pm |
Just so no one get's the wrong idea about baptists ( I am one). They split yrs ago. Baptists are conservative here (the south), and are in the Southern Baptist Convention. They had differences with other baptist churches, but I don't know the whole story, or the yr. I just know I've been to several baptist churches and they are filled with conservatives, and the preacher always is. Just wanted to clear that up 
I agree with you all that commented. We must vote for the candidate or party that closest reflects christian moral.
Steve you said we don't fight against flesh and blood.... Yes I understand that scripture well. I believe you are taking it out of context tho. Would you protect your child if flesh and blood was trying to kill her or him? And if you o stand by your comment, why are you voting at all? I am trying hard to understand you. Blessings, Robin
"There is no pit so deep, that God's love is not deeper still" Corrie Tenboom
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3221 posts 10/28/2008 7:53 pm |
Greg you said:
" We as christians can only hope and pray that another abortion case will reach that court and reverse the liberal Warren court ruling of 1973.
That's strange in 1973, wasn't the Supreme Court; made up of a majority of appointed Republicans, when they upheld the right of women, to have a legal abortion ? Out of the 9 justices ( only 7 voted ) 5 were conservative Republicans. So, why was it passed ? They had the majority then, one Democrat dissented, stating that he disagreed with the courts decision the legalize abortion.
As of today the Supreme Court is made up of 6 Republicans, and 2 Democrats. I guess you adhere to the myth that, " If we could just get one more Republican; in the Supreme Court, we'd win the battle. "
It should have been won by now.They really saw you coming. 
No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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3221 posts 10/28/2008 8:50 pm |
Quoting ladylightwalker: Just so no one get's the wrong idea about baptists ( I am one). They split yrs ago. Baptists are conservative here (the south), and are in the Southern Baptist Convention. They had differences with other baptist churches, but I don't know the whole story, or the yr. I just know I've been to several baptist churches and they are filled with conservatives, and the preacher always is. Just wanted to clear that up 
I agree with you all that commented. We must vote for the candidate or party that closest reflects christian moral.
Steve you said we don't fight against flesh and blood.... Yes I understand that scripture well. I believe you are taking it out of context tho. Would you protect your child if flesh and blood was trying to kill her or him? And if you o stand by your comment, why are you voting at all? I am trying hard to understand you. Blessings, Robin
Hi Robin...........As a former military man, I understand the discipline, of not becoming entangled in civilian affairs. When you're in the military, there are certain things you aren't allowed to be get involved in. I believe this is also true for Christians, we are soldiers of the Lord, and He expects us to steer clear of certain things, that are of this world.
I believe far too often, Christians get involved in politics, hoping to change the world via a particular political party. They point to things like abortion, and same sex marriage; as something they feel the need to change. They want to have laws changed, or have new laws invoked, that they believe, will keep their Christian values safe. I've said this many times before.......we aren't saved to vote politicians into office, who will legislate laws, to prevent mankind from sinning. Thats not why we're here.
We are here to be fishers of men, by the foolishness of preaching the Gospel. By which, men are saved, which leads to true repentance and a turning from sin. It is by grace that men are saved, not by passing laws; to restrict men's behavior. Passing laws never saves anyone, and no political party; or politician should cause a Christian to think otherwise. We shouldn't fight as beating the air ( wasting valuable energy ), we must fight having our minds focused on the Lord's work.
" No one engaged in warfare entangles himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please Him who enlisted him as a soldier. "
No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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2253 posts 10/29/2008 8:08 am |
Steve so are you voting? I thought you were voting for Obama?
"There is no pit so deep, that God's love is not deeper still" Corrie Tenboom
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40 posts 10/29/2008 12:04 pm |
gregduncan, If the Presidents and the Senate,etc., had the full control to stop the abortions, why doesn't all the States in America have the same laws on abortion? Think about it, there are some states that voted against abortion, same sex marriages,etc. there are some states that did not. It is left up to the states as to how they vote on abortion,etc, What does that tell you. Right now that is not the issue with choosing a President. The President cannot have HIS freewill to do everything he wants in office; It has to go through congress, etc. I am glad that it is left up to the states to vote on what they want or don't want in certain circumstances. I don't know a lot about politics, but I know some things and each person is free to vote for whoever they choose.
 
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2253 posts 10/29/2008 6:47 pm |
wantedbygo, whoever is president next will be puting 3 judges in Supreme Court this term most likely, because there are 3 who are in their late 80's and 90's. They will die probably this term or next. Not hoping or anything lol.....and them Roe vs Wade could be challanged and overtutrned with a new trial. That is why we believe it is an issue. But yes you are right about the states. But if Roe vs Wade is ever overturned, states won't be choosing abortion anymore. Blessings,
"There is no pit so deep, that God's love is not deeper still" Corrie Tenboom
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2253 posts 10/29/2008 6:50 pm |
WantedbyGod, And Dunky covered that in the second post above. Blessings, Robin
"There is no pit so deep, that God's love is not deeper still" Corrie Tenboom
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40 posts 10/29/2008 7:59 pm |
Thanks
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1234 posts 10/30/2008 9:49 pm |
Again how is voting for a man (McCain) who wants to fund embryonic stem cell research the "godly choice"?? It seems everyone is conveniently giving McCain a pass when he is not truly pro-life 100%.
Chuck Baldwin on the other hand, has no flip flops, pro-death positions or unbiblical stances. He is 100% pro-life.
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2253 posts 10/31/2008 7:32 am |
NJ I have answered that question 3 times or more on 2 other blogs. Do you know someone closer to being perfect on all the issues, that can win this term? He supports using the embryo's that are being thrown away. No more than that, to try and help cure parkinsons disease (something my neighbor died of) and other diseases. Soon they won't need them anyway. Soon they can make anything out of tissue from a patients own body. They are already doing this successfully in he beginning stages. I think using these embryos that are being thrown away is to speed that along. I agree it is not good. But you keep bringing this up as if we should what, throw away our vote on an independent? Or not vote? Then Obama wins, and believe me, he doesn't care about ANYone's life! I don't think that's a good thing to do. I believe McCain's the best we have to vote for. Obama is a Marxist. How easily we forget our history. Blessings, Robin
"There is no pit so deep, that God's love is not deeper still" Corrie Tenboom
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2253 posts 10/31/2008 7:33 am |
wanted, were u thanking me? yw, and welcome to bloggs! Blessings, Robin
"There is no pit so deep, that God's love is not deeper still" Corrie Tenboom
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3221 posts 10/31/2008 6:24 pm |
Quoting ladylightwalker: Steve so are you voting? I thought you were voting for Obama?
I don't normally vote.........but because of all of the fuss about Obama. I think I'll vote for him.
No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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2253 posts 10/31/2008 6:47 pm |
Steve you must be joking...You said they are both devils... lol 
"There is no pit so deep, that God's love is not deeper still" Corrie Tenboom
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3221 posts 10/31/2008 6:53 pm |
Quoting ladylightwalker: wantedbygo, whoever is president next will be puting 3 judges in Supreme Court this term most likely, because there are 3 who are in their late 80's and 90's. They will die probably this term or next. Not hoping or anything lol.....and them Roe vs Wade could be challanged and overtutrned with a new trial. That is why we believe it is an issue. But yes you are right about the states. But if Roe vs Wade is ever overturned, states won't be choosing abortion anymore. Blessings,
Robin......it doesn't quite work that way. The President can't just remove a judge ( or three for that matter ) the process doesn't work that easily. The President can nominate a judge; but his selection must be approved by the Senate. There must also be a vacancy, which can occur by the retirement, resignation or death; of a judge.
So Obama can't just start replacing judges.
No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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1234 posts 11/2/2008 8:10 pm |
Quoting ladylightwalker: NJ I have answered that question 3 times or more on 2 other blogs. Do you know someone closer to being perfect on all the issues, that can win this term? He supports using the embryo's that are being thrown away. No more than that, to try and help cure parkinsons disease (something my neighbor died of) and other diseases. Soon they won't need them anyway. Soon they can make anything out of tissue from a patients own body. They are already doing this successfully in he beginning stages. I think using these embryos that are being thrown away is to speed that along. I agree it is not good. But you keep bringing this up as if we should what, throw away our vote on an independent? Or not vote? Then Obama wins, and believe me, he doesn't care about ANYone's life! I don't think that's a good thing to do. I believe McCain's the best we have to vote for. Obama is a Marxist. How easily we forget our history. Blessings, Robin
On the specific stem cell issue with McCain he is also in support of increasing federal funding for frozen embryos.
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who is running for the Republican presidential nomination, on Thursday while campaigning in Florida said he continues to support human embryonic stem cell research, the Washington Post reports. When asked whether recent advances in nonembryonic stem cell research would change his stance, McCain replied, "I have not changed my position yet" (Milbank, Washington Post, 1/25).
But you and I just have different perspectives. I am 100% pro-life. mcCain is not. So on principle, I am not going to vote for him. Many Christians this year feel they should vote for who is practical. I am voting on principle. That's how I always vote. And on principle, McCain does not represent me. Stem cell research kills embryos. It's the killing of a life. That's not "pro-life."
I don't care if the candidate I am voting for has no chance. I don't think McCain has a chance. It's about voting with my Biblical beliefs. And McCain does not allow me to do that. And I bring it up because I hear so many people in these forums talking about the life issue but they seem to not care that McCain is not pro-life across the board. It just seems like everyone's giving him a pass.
If you are voting for who has the best chance to win, I can't disagree with that. Of course McCain has a MUCH better chance than Baldwin (who will not win). I just have a different perspective. To me wasting my vote is voting for someone who does not represent my beliefs. I am not doing "lesser of 2 evils."
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2253 posts 11/5/2008 1:22 pm |
NJ I respect your views, and how you're sticking to your principles. You've really made me think about this more. Thanks. blessings, Robin
"There is no pit so deep, that God's love is not deeper still" Corrie Tenboom
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