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WHO DO YOU THINK WON THE DEBATE ?
godlycook
9/26/2008 7:54 pm

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10/1/2008 7:56 pm

The first debate between Mccain and Obama just ended. Who do you think did a better job ?
McCain
Obama
It was a tie.
They're both losers.
I didn't even watch it.
Other


No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
AlanB2
1073 posts

9/26/2008 8:40 pm

McCain was well verserd and more knowledgable.....Obama was polished but not enough in my mind...I did gain more respect for him

meow33744
22250 posts 

9/26/2008 9:00 pm


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What is the Democratic Platform?

Ignorance of this and even satan looks like an angel of light.

Do not be fooled.

Beware.



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Without Absolute Truth, there are only lies disguised as truth, if you know not the Absolute Truth and it is NOT within you, you will embrace a relative truth that fits your eternity, that is presently before you.

Continue to be faithful, deliverance is near, obedience must be seen, be an unconditional blessing as He continues to bless you.

This time is short, serve Him well, serving all.

Without exception.

Know?

Yes?

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Personal


Meow?





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For me to live is Christ and to die is gain.

Depression / Passion

Meow ?


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Rockdog50
1041 posts 

9/26/2008 11:04 pm

I'm with Meow on this one.

Cassiusclay
5463 posts 

9/26/2008 11:16 pm

I didn't watch it but i may side with Pete on this one

Gods way is my way,...Clay

sabrefire45
1561 posts 

9/27/2008 3:08 am

    Quoting meow33744:

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    [Image]

    What is the Democratic Platform?

    Ignorance of this and even satan looks like an angel of light.

    Do not be fooled.

    Beware.



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    Without Absolute Truth, there are only lies disguised as truth, if you know not the Absolute Truth and it is NOT within you, you will embrace a relative truth that fits your eternity, that is presently before you.

    Continue to be faithful, deliverance is near, obedience must be seen, be an unconditional blessing as He continues to bless you.

    This time is short, serve Him well, serving all.

    Without exception.

    Know?

    Yes?

    ?

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    Personal


    Meow?





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What is...the ACLU, "women's rights," and pixie dust? Alex.
Jk...
GB!

Claudia_T
2412 posts 

9/27/2008 5:20 am

Well first I voted "It was a LIE" but then I realized the choice was "It is a TIE".

Then I voted "I didnt even watch it".

The reason why I didnt even watch it is because I know that the entire thing is a sham. Both Political Parties are on the SAME SIDE... these people have been Freemasons, the Illuminati and the only reason they even have Elections now is to fool the people into thinking they actually have a choice.

It doesnt matter who you vote for, they are all taking us in the same direction.

...and it isnt a good one. One World Order and One World Religion.

Hillary Clinton and then Mc Cain's wife BOTH wore the Phoenix in the Ashes Lapel pin and theres a reason for it.

It is an Occult Masonic symbol for Lucifer rising from the ashes... They believe that Lucifer did a good thing by rebelling against God and that he will finally conquer God. Thats what Freemasonry is all about at its top levels.

The entire Plan of the United Nations is built around the writings of Alice Bailey, whose Books used to be under LUCIFER TRUST but they changed it now to LUCIS TRUST because it was too obvious.

"... and the whole World wondered after the Beast" Rv:13:3

The truth is that you all are being fooled by even getting involved in Voting, in the first place.

Jesus said "MY Kingdom is NOT of this World."

Google in the words cutting edge mcCain phoenix and click the first link that comes up if you want to see for yourself about the Phoenix lapel pin. This has been going on for decades.

when you read the article click the link that is titled: NEWS1259
to see Hillary with hers on... both Parties leading ONE direction.

Jesus is my Saviour, I shall not be moved.

Claudia_T
2412 posts 

9/27/2008 5:25 am

Lucis Trust
Fifty years at the United Nations plaza. Currently located on Wall Street in New York. Lucis Trust provides worldwide financial support for the Arcane School, World Goodwill, Triangles, Lucis Publishing, Lucis Productions, Lucis Trust Libraries, and the New Group of World Servers. Maintains the UN meditation room.

Jesus is my Saviour, I shall not be moved.

mrsandman
212 posts 

9/27/2008 5:40 am

I watched it. I don't really confide in either but at the end of the day I guess I would feel safer with McCain running the country than Obama.

godlycook
3206 posts 

9/27/2008 6:11 am

If I were to grade them both, I'd give Obama a B and McCain a C. McCains body language said a lot, he never looked at Obama. He kept looking down, even when addressing Obama. Obama looked more relaxed and looked at McCain, the moderator, the camera and the audience; throughout the debate. Its important, when debating; to look at your opponent ( at least occasionally ), rather then just looking down at the podium ( eye contact shows confidence ).

There was one occasion when neither Obama nor McCain answered the question, and the moderator had to keep asking them over and over again. As far as platform, there is no real difference between the two parties, any difference is only imagined. They're both taking us to the same place...... NEW WORLD ORDER.


No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

heartforedjehu
13528 posts

9/27/2008 8:22 am

Obama is a elegant speaker and his looking everyone in the eye does do well for him, yet overall I think McCain did best, and finished on a note of experience and confidence. I do agree, we are headed in the same direction, despite election results. There are some red-flags with Obama that can't be overlooked. He will probably win.

From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda

heartforedjehu
13528 posts

9/27/2008 8:31 am

On a side note, I have been perusing the net, looking to see who America thinks won the debate and it is very unclear. Too close to call.

From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda

onamisionfromgod
214 posts 

9/27/2008 9:40 am

i thought obama would be the better debator,

but i was pretty suprised to see that mcaine controled the debate.

i think mcaine has too much knowledge of history,

and too much experience,for obama to be able to compete.

its almost like a boxing match,you never really know who is going to win until the fight is over.

the rematch should be pretty good.

godlycook
3206 posts 

9/27/2008 4:18 pm

    Quoting heartforedjehu:
    Obama is a elegant speaker and his looking everyone in the eye does do well for him, yet overall I think McCain did best, and finished on a note of experience and confidence. I do agree, we are headed in the same direction, despite election results. There are some red-flags with Obama that can't be overlooked. He will probably win.
Remember just a week ago McCain was telling us that the economy was strong. How did his experience play into that. He was lying ( Obama pointed out the fact that McCain was out of touch ), then he ( McCain ) had to back peddle, and finally admitted we are in deep trouble ). My question is, with all that supposed experience, why didn't he ( McCain ) know we were in trouble, was he misleading the American people ? Somethings not right.

No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

Rockdog50
1041 posts 

9/27/2008 7:02 pm

What's not right is Obama satin that erroneous church under that apostate pastor of hate for years and only disassoiciated himself when it began to make him look bad in regards to his election. It doesn't take much wisdom to recognize that he didn't sit under that teaching all that time had he not been in agreement. In the saddleback Church interview ( Rick Warren etc ) when asked regarding abortion when he felt a childs life began he answered " well, that's above me paygrade" oh really. McCain asked the same, and w/out hesitation said "at conception". Obama has been a supporter of the gay rtsmovement and just as he always has support the liberal left verses the conservative right and so it is a no brainer who he would appoint as judges to the supreme court. His running mate Mr.Biden is a flaming liberal as well who supports all the same left wing mandates as Obama so the thinking Christian knows fully well what direction this worldly minded duo would take this nation. David wasn't perfect, he lied, he murdered, he committed adultrey, but he had a heart for the Lord and His word. So personaly I am not into the politics, my decisions are based on who best serves the interests of God especially now when we have fallen so far from our Christian precepts on which this nation was founded, a nation God was able to bless. Billy Graham made a profound statement "If God doesn't judge America He will have to appologize to Sodom and Gomarrah". So we can choose what issues we feel are most relevent, energy, economy, taxes or whatever, but when the Christian goes to the poll they should recognize whom it is they represent, look at the issues that would be relevant to God, because if we don't stand for Him, our country has little hope. If we can again gain the blessing of God in this country most of the issues we are so concerned about would vanish, the answer isn't the political jargin these canidates voice, it's also all about whom they are most likely to represent. To the world it's all about politics, to the Christian it should be about_________? We each fill in that blank by way of our own conscience, which in turn represents that which is truly in out hearts, and when all is said and done, we each must give our own account.
Thank you for you hospitality by allowing my two cents worth here, may God richly bless you and all who have posted here.

"If God be for us, who can stand against us"?

heartforedjehu
13528 posts

9/27/2008 7:06 pm

I did not see nor hear McCain say the economy was strong. Anyone who would say such a thing is at worst a liar- at best extremely ignorant. He appeared to be experienced in his comments of international posturings. Both of these men are putting out their best effort to "appear" to be the best candidate. In a short time, we will see who appeared to be the best.

From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda

godlycook
3206 posts 

9/27/2008 8:36 pm

    Quoting AlanB2:
    McCain was well verserd and more knowledgable.....Obama was polished but not enough in my mind...I did gain more respect for him
Why do you think McCain really felt the need to postpone the debate ?

No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

godlycook
3206 posts 

9/27/2008 8:42 pm

    Quoting mrsandman:
    I watched it. I don't really confide in either but at the end of the day I guess I would feel safer with McCain running the country than Obama.
So, you'd settle for four more years of Bush-a-nomics ? Can't you see where that's taken us ? I don't think we can take four more years of that.

No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

godlycook
3206 posts 

9/27/2008 9:14 pm

    Quoting onamisionfromgod:
    i thought obama would be the better debator,

    but i was pretty suprised to see that mcaine controled the debate.

    i think mcaine has too much knowledge of history,

    and too much experience,for obama to be able to compete.

    its almost like a boxing match,you never really know who is going to win until the fight is over.

    the rematch should be pretty good.
That was only the first debate.........I'm sure it'll get better. No one who looks down through an entire debate, is controlling a debate. Aside from other things, it shows a lack of confidence. I know a little history myself, and I also know when someone is twisting it. McCain was just as confused over what has happen in the Middle East ( and how we should deal with terrorist ), as he was about the economy being stable.

No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

godlycook
3206 posts 

9/27/2008 10:11 pm

    Quoting Rockdog50:
    What's not right is Obama satin that erroneous church under that apostate pastor of hate for years and only disassoiciated himself when it began to make him look bad in regards to his election. It doesn't take much wisdom to recognize that he didn't sit under that teaching all that time had he not been in agreement. In the saddleback Church interview ( Rick Warren etc ) when asked regarding abortion when he felt a childs life began he answered " well, that's above me paygrade" oh really. McCain asked the same, and w/out hesitation said "at conception". Obama has been a supporter of the gay rtsmovement and just as he always has support the liberal left verses the conservative right and so it is a no brainer who he would appoint as judges to the supreme court. His running mate Mr.Biden is a flaming liberal as well who supports all the same left wing mandates as Obama so the thinking Christian knows fully well what direction this worldly minded duo would take this nation. David wasn't perfect, he lied, he murdered, he committed adultrey, but he had a heart for the Lord and His word. So personaly I am not into the politics, my decisions are based on who best serves the interests of God especially now when we have fallen so far from our Christian precepts on which this nation was founded, a nation God was able to bless. Billy Graham made a profound statement "If God doesn't judge America He will have to appologize to Sodom and Gomarrah". So we can choose what issues we feel are most relevent, energy, economy, taxes or whatever, but when the Christian goes to the poll they should recognize whom it is they represent, look at the issues that would be relevant to God, because if we don't stand for Him, our country has little hope. If we can again gain the blessing of God in this country most of the issues we are so concerned about would vanish, the answer isn't the political jargin these canidates voice, it's also all about whom they are most likely to represent. To the world it's all about politics, to the Christian it should be about_________? We each fill in that blank by way of our own conscience, which in turn represents that which is truly in out hearts, and when all is said and done, we each must give our own account.
    Thank you for you hospitality by allowing my two cents worth here, may God richly bless you and all who have posted here.

    "If God be for us, who can stand against us"?
Rockdog50....... What you've said about Obama's association in a church, that teaches what is known as " Black Liberation Theology ", for several years is true. I don't believe for a moment that Obama didn't know what was being taught, for all those years ( unless he was an absentee member ). Nor do I believe that Obama is a Christian. That being said, I don't believe McCain is a Christian either. I'm also well aware of both candidates positions on abortion, and their stance on gay rights etc. ( among other things ).

So, which of the two do I think would make a better president ? In my opinion Obama would; but when it really comes down to it, its whichever one God puts in office. Lets not forget that whichever one God puts in office, isn't necessarily the smarter; or the most experienced, and better looking. But the one God wants to use; to perform a particular task ( whatever that may be ). Christians all too often are looking for a secular ( political ) leader ( or political party ), who they think will deliver the U.S. from the evils of such things as homosexuality, abortion, terrorist and so on. Forgetting that real deliverance can be found only in Christ, and His kingdom is not of this world. Christ is not a Republican or Democrat.


No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

Rockdog50
1041 posts 

9/27/2008 10:33 pm

Amen brother, I respect your response and appreciate your insightfullness, I am in complete agreement, in essence we've almost said the same thing different ways. Honestly I was not overly enthusiastic about McCain either it's just a "lesser of two evils" call and who has proven to hold the greater conservative track record of who is on the ballot. Blessings to you my friend, I post this last to you here with the greatest of respect. Shalom

loki2007
2481 posts 

9/28/2008 1:15 am

Whichever one becomes President will need a lot of prayer because
they are taking on major challenges with the economy and terrorism
at this time.Lets face it,if things go wrong whoever wins will be vilified for doing the wrong thing and if things get better the candidate who wins will be admired for making the right decisions.
Its all in Gods most capable hands & everything will work for His good purpose.

godlycook
3206 posts 

9/28/2008 11:59 am

    Quoting Rockdog50:
    Amen brother, I respect your response and appreciate your insightfullness, I am in complete agreement, in essence we've almost said the same thing different ways. Honestly I was not overly enthusiastic about McCain either it's just a "lesser of two evils" call and who has proven to hold the greater conservative track record of who is on the ballot. Blessings to you my friend, I post this last to you here with the greatest of respect. Shalom
According to a conservative talk show I listen to, McCain is the most liberal of the GOP, and of them has the most liberal voting record. Stop looking at McCain as the lesser, of two evils; he is one of two evils. The Republican party is not the Christian party, even though they have succeeded in fooling many Christians into thinking so.

No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

godlycook
3206 posts 

9/28/2008 12:07 pm

    Quoting heartforedjehu:
    I did not see nor hear McCain say the economy was strong. Anyone who would say such a thing is at worst a liar- at best extremely ignorant. He appeared to be experienced in his comments of international posturings. Both of these men are putting out their best effort to "appear" to be the best candidate. In a short time, we will see who appeared to be the best.
He not only said it once; but he said it several times. So, that would leave us with the conclusion that he either lied, or he was stupid. I don't think he's stupid ( or ignorant ) on matters of the economy.......that means he intentionally lied, but only until it became impossible to hide the truth. And you think he has experience and confidence. Would that be experience in lying, and confidence in his ability to deceive the people ?

No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

godlycook
3206 posts 

9/28/2008 12:23 pm

    Quoting loki2007:
    Whichever one becomes President will need a lot of prayer because
    they are taking on major challenges with the economy and terrorism
    at this time.Lets face it,if things go wrong whoever wins will be vilified for doing the wrong thing and if things get better the candidate who wins will be admired for making the right decisions.
    Its all in Gods most capable hands & everything will work for His good purpose.
Yes, whichever one becomes the next President, will inherit one big mess. If things improve; both parties will want to take credit for it. If things get worst, they'll blame each other. Who wins...........who loses?

No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

onamisionfromgod
214 posts 

9/28/2008 12:29 pm

    Quoting godlycook:
    That was only the first debate.........I'm sure it'll get better. No one who looks down through an entire debate, is controlling a debate. Aside from other things, it shows a lack of confidence. I know a little history myself, and I also know when someone is twisting it. McCain was just as confused over what has happen in the Middle East ( and how we should deal with terrorist ), as he was about the economy being stable.
oh,i thought you were asking "OUR" opinions.

godlycook
3206 posts 

9/28/2008 2:11 pm

Yes....... and you based your opinion on what you thought of the debate. Thank you. I just pointed out some things, that people who watched the debate have missed ( or ignored ). To truly understand the debates ( and how well a particular candidate is doing ), and to be able to recognize the lies being told; one must be as aware of ( and follow ) what each candidate said leading up to the debate. If you noticed, McCain keep saying, when referring to how Obama wants to handle Pakistan; that he ( Obama ) just doesn't get it, and you can't say what he ( Obama ) has been saying; about going into Pakistan.

Obama missed an opportunity, to remind Mr. McCain; that his ( Obama's ) policy is the same as President Bush's so-called " Bush Doctrine ", in how he ( President Bush ) has been handling terrorism. These are the types of things, we have to be aware; of if we're going to follow the debates.


No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

inamorato4u
(Jack M)

9/28/2008 7:13 pm

I'd call it mostly a tie with the edge going to Senator Obama. ( But I am a biased ACLU card carrying Left Cost Liberal. Truth in labeling here. )

Most of the talking heads on TV are calling it a toss up also. The early polls appear to give Obama a slight lead. Even the GOP controlled FOX News is mostly calling it a tie.

I am actually very glad neither candidate produced that show stopping historic gaff. Or had one of those walk off quotes that live forever like "... Senator, you are no JFK." or "...weeelll, there you go again..."

Because there were no huge gaffs and the debate was mostly a tie, the fickle corporate media will focus on the Real Issues and fact checking instead of the stupid horse race distractions. The Corporate Media wants a Circus, but our country needs a serious discussion of the issues.

I really hope this continues. Stay focused on the real issues facing our nation and not on the beauty pageant.

Because I really believe, if we stay focused on the issues, Senator Obama will win. ( But see disclaimer in my first sentence above. )

OK, One fact check: McCain was wrong about Pakistan being a failed democracy before the Dictator Musharraf took over. Pakistan was a democracy. And once again, just like with Sadam, because he was "Our Dictator" we supported him. We should never have support Musharraf and we should never have supported Saddam nor the Shaw of Iran. Supporting dictators has never worked out well for us.

heartforedjehu
13528 posts

9/29/2008 5:34 pm

Hello,
You seem to not favor McCain. If I thought he had experience in lying and confidence in deception I would say so. I said,
" yet overall I think McCain did best, and finished on a note of experience and confidence." You asked what I thought and I told you.
Did you really want to know? You apparently don't like my opinion.
If you think he is a liar that's fine. Don't vote for him. You have power to exercise the right to vote. What a deal!


From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda

Aslan17
2161 posts

10/1/2008 9:10 am

    Quoting godlycook:
    So, you'd settle for four more years of Bush-a-nomics ? Can't you see where that's taken us ? I don't think we can take four more years of that.
So which aspect of the Bush economic policy are you referring to?
The tax cuts which stimulated our economy and raised the tax revenue? Sure I'll look for that to continue. If you mean the out of control spending that had Bush looking more like a democrat than a republican, no thanks.

Thats why I voting for McCain.

We are what we believe we are.
C. S. Lewis

godlycook
3206 posts 

10/1/2008 7:55 pm

    Quoting Aslan17:
    So which aspect of the Bush economic policy are you referring to?
    The tax cuts which stimulated our economy and raised the tax revenue? Sure I'll look for that to continue. If you mean the out of control spending that had Bush looking more like a democrat than a republican, no thanks.

    Thats why I voting for McCain.
Look whose back........its always nice to hear from you.

No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7

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