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You know, when I came over to the blogs and started reading I was really hoping to see a changed man, Jeremiah. A man full of love, compassion, mercy, grace of Jesus Christ. A man dedicated to encouraging and lifting up his brothers and sisters in the Lord. Yet, I see your still the same ol man condemning his brothers and sisters when they don’t agree with you. YOU SAID: I know you are watching. I know because since I've become more actively on the Blog Page, you've been visiting my blogs almost every week. But you don't post. All you do is watch and plot. MY RESPONSE: Yes, Jeremiah, I come into the blogs and have done a little reading here and there – no secret. Plotting? - not at all. Informing someone of your criminal record is NOT plotting. YOU SAID: Show yourself. Let us all "see" the woman who used the Internet and searched my name and found what you thought was incriminating evidence of a criminal conviction I had. Then you brought it to Big Church and did a post. YOU caused such an uproar then. You love drama, don't you. You and his4ever2007 searched my name (I was emailing his4ever2007 and she led me to believe she was my friend and was not), but searched you did. You and her. MY RESPONSE: Yes, I searched for you on the Registry, found you, an outted you. His4ever had NOTHING to do with my searching for you. I did the search, and informed her and the others on the Magazine back in early 2007. YOU SAID: But that's not all. Because another member had stood with me, you and his4ever2007 searched her name and found personal and private information and tried to discredit her character, too. You posted her bank account, who held deed to her home, and other confidential information about her and her husband (who was not a member at BC). You are a sick woman! MY RESPONSE: I did NOT post confidential information. That is a false accusation! YOU SAID: What is wrong with you?! You were kicked off this site, but came back under a new name, "Rosaceae2007." And now all the way from Canada where you live, you reach all the way across the Atlantic and used Claudia in your evil schemes against me. You manipulated and used her to further your evil against me. Both you and Longing4more (Gloria) are Canadians and you manipulated our American system to do me harm. And here you are three years later still attacking my past! MY RESPONSE: Yes I was kicked off the BC because someone complained of me using there first name. This individual used there first name on the Magazine. Therefore as this individual told me there first name BC allowed me to sign up again thus Rosaceae became Rosaceae2007. Jeremiah, informing someone of your criminal record is not plotting against you, manipulating someone, or attacking you. It is simply making people aware of your character – end of story. YOU SAID: You are a condemned woman. You stand in condemnation before a holy God. Your guilty conscience condemns you. But it is lonely there, isn't it. So you find someone to share in your condemnation. "Tell people about my past and watch them all condemn jeremiah!" you thought to yourself! Just so I could be under condemnation just like you! Who ever molested you in your youth, I am sorry for that. But you must know I did nothing to you. Yet, because of my conviction you want to get back at your offender and attack me? This is sin, woman! MY RESPONSE: I am not a condemn woman. I am a sinner saved by grace, washed in the shed blood of Jesus Christ. I stand before a Holy God clothed in a robe of righteousness. YOU SAID: Show yourself. Let us see you. Come out from the darkness and let us all see the woman who has brought us confusion and defiled consciences of everyone here. Let us see you. Let us see evil in your words and in your presence. Show yourself, you wicked, and warped, woman. Tell us why you want to harm me. MY RESPONSE: Jeremiah, I have not brought any confusion – truth does not bring confusion nor does it defile consciences. My purpose in informing people is to protect people from you.[/B] YOU SAID: Claudia, I want you to know that I do not hold you accountable to what you did. But you acted, said, and did what every natural person would do. And Linda USED you. If you are sincere in your repentance I will receive you. But you do not need to apologize. I absolve you of your mis-guided heart. I understood from the beginning the dynamics involved here. I understood it all. When I saw this revelation of my past being brought up slowly I reached out to certain here and asked to email them. I sought fellowship with Godlycook, Heartforedjehu, and others in order to be available to their questions and for fellowship. NOT for sending viruses. When his4ever2006 and I were emailing she said that she had no bible program on her computer for study. So I took her to a reputable Christian site to download a free bible program so that she would excel in her studies. There was no virus in this program. Soon, the real her came out and she betrayed this friendship. My request to reach out to you was sincere. I wanted to know you. I made known that I had a Beloved. My desire to know you was sincere. But there were some who defiled your heart towards me. Longing4more, Dee Dee, Rosaceae2007, Hisglory77, his4ever2007, all of these people have sinned against me and everyone at this site, and persecuted me since 2006. But it was Rosaceae2007 who caused us both harm. I do not blame you. Please, overcome your guilt and meet me halfway? I do not hold you at fault. My Response: I did NOT say his4ever got a virus downloading a program, however another person did. Get your facts straight Jeremiah! Again informing someone of your character is not defiling them. It is protecting them. YOU SAID: Since March 2009 Hisglory77 and Rosaceae2007 and his4ever2007 had been sending emails to members telling them about my conviction and trying to influence them against me. MY RESPONSE: False Accusation! I have not been emailing people sine March 2009. Yes, I did email two women here on the site an informed them of your conviction and your subsequent revisit to a state facility, because you were asking them and others to email you off the site. The first email was sent the end of July and the other was in August. YOU SAID: I have nothing against you, except you attacking me personally with false information that was illegally brought to this site. Guess what...? This act was done by another Canadian. What's up with you Canadians? Gloria and Rosaceae2007, and Byron, and his4ever2007...you all have done evil in the sight of God and attacked with your malicious heart an innocent man. But you don't care. You want to try to destroy me in the eyes of others. You will not succeed. God will defend me. And He will turn back your evil schemes and devices. I am dealing with unbelievers. All five of you are unbelievers. You don't know anything about the grace of God because God has never saved you. There is no grace or mercy in your words. You five are sick puppies! All of you. MY RESPONSE: Jeremiah your criminal conviction is public record. It is not evil to inform others – to protect people. It is not evil to inform people of the truth. Canadians have been known for years to be Peace Keepers – to protect people from the enemy. I AM A PROUD CANADIAN!!!! As much as you think I hate you – I do not. However what I do know of you is that people need to be informed of your your criminal conviction, controlling manipulative spirit, how you twist Scripture - adding to and taking away from, your false accusations and labelling of people, you are a FALSE prophet, and my list can go on. Jeremiah – whether it be me or someone else – someone on here will always know the truth about you. Your past will always come up – that’s just the way it is! I really hope and pray that one day you find peace with God. The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you. |
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10/25/2009 3:48 am |
Now entertain me if you will.... WHY do people need to be informed of any persons criminal convictions here on BC? Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/25/2009 3:50 am |
I don't TRUST you ... Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/25/2009 7:25 am |
Rosa--God Bless youa nd His for finally bringing the truth out about Jeremiah--you willbe attacked for it because there are so many on here who simply refuse to hear the truth about this man---I;mnot talking about his so called crime--noone but he knows if it happened or not--I;m talking about his doctrine--his control and manip[ulation over people in here--demanding they come around tohis way--or its the hyway!! I;m just thankful you and His brought forth these blogs--bringing the truth out finally!! Blessings--DeeDee
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10/25/2009 9:28 am |
Now entertain me if you will.... WHY do people need to be informed of any persons criminal convictions here on BC? I find the whole thing laughable. Rhonda put up a post called "Ten Posts" Read it Big "CHURCH?" I agree most whole-heartedly with Priscilla! In a conversation with my son today he said "2:38 in the morning putting up a post aboutsomeone else? Isn't that S'posed to be a website for "Christians? Pops, you need to get away from it!" People have stopped sharing here! I wonder why? Who is next? Who is going to be the next one ? You people make me sick!!!!!! Congratulations for destroying this website! Are you going to do a background check on me next? I am really popular! You might get a bunch of stinkin' views but I ask you this : HOW IN GOD's Almighty name do you people sleep at night! Christians are like Timex watches. We take a lickin', but We keep on tickin'! Steve 
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10/25/2009 10:08 am |
Now entertain me if you will.... WHY do people need to be informed of any persons criminal convictions here on BC? You asked to be entertained, well I am only 1 of the several women here that do not find this to be entertaining. To me this is very serious, especially after my interaction with Jeremiah became a little more personal. I have wrote some in my own blog which you may or may not have read but I will tell you some of it here. Jeremiah called my phone every single night for months, sometimes more than once a day. As time went on he and I shared information with each other about our childhood times, teenage times, crisis in our lives, how we came to have a personal relationship with the Lord and relationship(s) with men/women in our lives. Now as I said, Jeremiah called ME, I never called him and would you like to know why? He would not give out his phone number and when he called he would block his number. Does that seem strange to you? There came a time when he and I did not disagree on things and he began to accuse me of trying to seduce him over the telephone which was ridiculous. I had just recently lost my fiance in a very tragic motorcycle accident and so if anyone was vulnerable at that time it was me and he is a person that knows how to use others crisis to benefit him. As for putting his criminal history out there, it is public info, there for the looking. When a person gets hired on with a company that company does a criminal history check. When a person rents a house/apartment that management company does a criminal history check. Why? Because that person is someone that is going to be spending a lot of time interacting with people around him and representing their business. At his place of living there are many people and children that he will become involved with daily. Well, at BC there are many people that he has become involved with and some of these people are women, single women. And some of these single women have children. I dont know that all of the women here are like me but when I begin to have any type of interaction with someone here I find out everything that I can about them, whatever it takes because I do have children and I have things that I do not want to risk losing. I also think that when someone starts proclaiming to be a prophet and starts attacking everyone, sometimes unexplainably, then maybe its worth the looking into what is out there on the internet about people and it isnt that hard to do a search on someone. Jeremiah has not been honest about his past. He has twisted his story several times when he tells it. I think he should write it down and just copy and paste so he doesnt put his foot in his mouth. He attacks women, especially, in a very un-christianlike manner, my opinion. He loves to argue, will absolutely wear you out arguing and it goes nowhere in the end. I really hope that this didnt entertain you. I hope that if you are single that you and other women are very, very cautious....and I am not just talking about Jeremiah. And, I am not saying this to make any of the other men look bad because the men have to be just as careful about the women here. Somewhere every 10 seconds there's a woman giving birth to a child. She must be found and stopped!
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10/25/2009 10:34 am |
Steve--take your meds and go take a nap---Lord Man you are the one who every other week gets ticked off at soemone on BC and YOU leave--no one ever asked you to leave--Go play with your new friend Jeremiah--ohby the way--HE thinks your a Pagan--read his posts about you lol--I find it very entertaining that you both are now friends!!!
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10/25/2009 11:38 am |
Rosaceae, Forgive me if I came in and just kind of took over in my response to Godwhispers. I know she was speaking to you and I just couldnt help myself. What you have said is great. Blessings and prayers for you and your family, His4ever. Somewhere every 10 seconds there's a woman giving birth to a child. She must be found and stopped!
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10/25/2009 11:41 am |
You said-------My Response----You said------My Response? Is it possible that BC is being played? Is it possible that ONE person has multiple Handles and is arguing with themself? I find the whole thing laughable. Rhonda put up a post called "Ten Posts" Read it Big "CHURCH?" I agree most whole-heartedly with Priscilla! In a conversation with my son today he said "2:38 in the morning putting up a post aboutsomeone else? Isn't that S'posed to be a website for "Christians? Pops, you need to get away from it!" People have stopped sharing here! I wonder why? Who is next? Who is going to be the next one ? You people make me sick!!!!!! Congratulations for destroying this website! Are you going to do a background check on me next? I am really popular! You might get a bunch of stinkin' views but I ask you this : HOW IN GOD's Almighty name do you people sleep at night! I have no idea who you are so you cant be all that popular! If one of my friends, sisters or myself had a deep interest in you, you bet I would do a background check on you. How do I sleep at nite? Usually on my left side. Somewhere every 10 seconds there's a woman giving birth to a child. She must be found and stopped!
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 10/25/2009 12:37 pm |
You said-------My Response----You said------My Response? Is it possible that BC is being played? Is it possible that ONE person has multiple Handles and is arguing with themself? I find the whole thing laughable. Rhonda put up a post called "Ten Posts" Read it Big "CHURCH?" I agree most whole-heartedly with Priscilla! In a conversation with my son today he said "2:38 in the morning putting up a post aboutsomeone else? Isn't that S'posed to be a website for "Christians? Pops, you need to get away from it!" People have stopped sharing here! I wonder why? Who is next? Who is going to be the next one ? You people make me sick!!!!!! Congratulations for destroying this website! Are you going to do a background check on me next? I am really popular! You might get a bunch of stinkin' views but I ask you this : HOW IN GOD's Almighty name do you people sleep at night!
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10/25/2009 12:48 pm |
You dont have to trust Rosaceae and you dont have to trust me. You dont have to trust Jeremiah1five or any other BC member here. You only have to trust one.....GOD. You asked to be entertained, well I am only 1 of the several women here that do not find this to be entertaining. To me this is very serious, especially after my interaction with Jeremiah became a little more personal. I have wrote some in my own blog which you may or may not have read but I will tell you some of it here. Jeremiah called my phone every single night for months, sometimes more than once a day. As time went on he and I shared information with each other about our childhood times, teenage times, crisis in our lives, how we came to have a personal relationship with the Lord and relationship(s) with men/women in our lives. Now as I said, Jeremiah called ME, I never called him and would you like to know why? He would not give out his phone number and when he called he would block his number. Does that seem strange to you? There came a time when he and I did not disagree on things and he began to accuse me of trying to seduce him over the telephone which was ridiculous. I had just recently lost my fiance in a very tragic motorcycle accident and so if anyone was vulnerable at that time it was me and he is a person that knows how to use others crisis to benefit him. As for putting his criminal history out there, it is public info, there for the looking. When a person gets hired on with a company that company does a criminal history check. When a person rents a house/apartment that management company does a criminal history check. Why? Because that person is someone that is going to be spending a lot of time interacting with people around him and representing their business. At his place of living there are many people and children that he will become involved with daily. Well, at BC there are many people that he has become involved with and some of these people are women, single women. And some of these single women have children. I dont know that all of the women here are like me but when I begin to have any type of interaction with someone here I find out everything that I can about them, whatever it takes because I do have children and I have things that I do not want to risk losing. I also think that when someone starts proclaiming to be a prophet and starts attacking everyone, sometimes unexplainably, then maybe its worth the looking into what is out there on the internet about people and it isnt that hard to do a search on someone. Jeremiah has not been honest about his past. He has twisted his story several times when he tells it. I think he should write it down and just copy and paste so he doesnt put his foot in his mouth. He attacks women, especially, in a very un-christianlike manner, my opinion. He loves to argue, will absolutely wear you out arguing and it goes nowhere in the end. I really hope that this didnt entertain you. I hope that if you are single that you and other women are very, very cautious....and I am not just talking about Jeremiah. And, I am not saying this to make any of the other men look bad because the men have to be just as careful about the women here. Just to make it perfectly clear, having a scriptural gun held to your head can be very devastating and crippling, and absolutely empowers the enemy despite our confession of Christ for forgivness of sins. What happens when we can no longer believe in Christ for forgiveness of sins because some idiot in Christ proclaims damnations against you? How long can people endure before they walk away from Christ because they can no longer believe because of people like Jeremiah1five? If possible, Andrew would even create an exodus away from the faith unless they come under "Andrew". I second the comment that this is not for entertainment. Do people have any sense? If our faith in a spiritual is real, so are the consequences of accusation. Whatever is happening down here has spiritual consequences. Believe it or not, this is not play time. Whatever accusations happen down here get lifted to God, and God either forgives or he will judge. this is subject to our willigness to submit to Christ.
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10/25/2009 1:05 pm |
His--Chris thinks he rules BC--he has a very high opinion of hhimself--read his blogs and see if he makes any sense at all--he defianntly smokes something pretty powerful!!
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10/25/2009 1:11 pm |
You dont have to trust Rosaceae and you dont have to trust me. You dont have to trust Jeremiah1five or any other BC member here. You only have to trust one.....GOD. You asked to be entertained, well I am only 1 of the several women here that do not find this to be entertaining. To me this is very serious, especially after my interaction with Jeremiah became a little more personal. I have wrote some in my own blog which you may or may not have read but I will tell you some of it here. Jeremiah called my phone every single night for months, sometimes more than once a day. As time went on he and I shared information with each other about our childhood times, teenage times, crisis in our lives, how we came to have a personal relationship with the Lord and relationship(s) with men/women in our lives. Now as I said, Jeremiah called ME, I never called him and would you like to know why? He would not give out his phone number and when he called he would block his number. Does that seem strange to you? There came a time when he and I did not disagree on things and he began to accuse me of trying to seduce him over the telephone which was ridiculous. I had just recently lost my fiance in a very tragic motorcycle accident and so if anyone was vulnerable at that time it was me and he is a person that knows how to use others crisis to benefit him. As for putting his criminal history out there, it is public info, there for the looking. When a person gets hired on with a company that company does a criminal history check. When a person rents a house/apartment that management company does a criminal history check. Why? Because that person is someone that is going to be spending a lot of time interacting with people around him and representing their business. At his place of living there are many people and children that he will become involved with daily. Well, at BC there are many people that he has become involved with and some of these people are women, single women. And some of these single women have children. I dont know that all of the women here are like me but when I begin to have any type of interaction with someone here I find out everything that I can about them, whatever it takes because I do have children and I have things that I do not want to risk losing. I also think that when someone starts proclaiming to be a prophet and starts attacking everyone, sometimes unexplainably, then maybe its worth the looking into what is out there on the internet about people and it isnt that hard to do a search on someone. Jeremiah has not been honest about his past. He has twisted his story several times when he tells it. I think he should write it down and just copy and paste so he doesnt put his foot in his mouth. He attacks women, especially, in a very un-christianlike manner, my opinion. He loves to argue, will absolutely wear you out arguing and it goes nowhere in the end. I really hope that this didnt entertain you. I hope that if you are single that you and other women are very, very cautious....and I am not just talking about Jeremiah. And, I am not saying this to make any of the other men look bad because the men have to be just as careful about the women here. I hate when I have to retype what I said, because I put so much energy into it. Oh well, here goes. I'm sure no one realizes how serious accusations become until you suffer them. When Andrew (Jeremiah1five) comes against members with a scriptural gun, bringing scriptures against people and invalidating people reaching for the cross for forgiveness of sins, this is a serious matter. Although this may seem entertaining, these are actually very serious issues. Where there's an accusation, it's only fair these women get to respond. Every accusation goes before God. This isn't play time, as soaring might suggest.
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10/25/2009 1:59 pm |
Rosa--God Bless youa nd His for finally bringing the truth out about Jeremiah--you willbe attacked for it because there are so many on here who simply refuse to hear the truth about this man---I;mnot talking about his so called crime--noone but he knows if it happened or not--I;m talking about his doctrine--his control and manip[ulation over people in here--demanding they come around tohis way--or its the hyway!! I;m just thankful you and His brought forth these blogs--bringing the truth out finally!! Blessings--DeeDee You are right that it’s his way or the highway. It has been like that since I first saw him in the Magazine section back the end of 2006. All Christians should be comparing what one is teaching to Scripture not just taking another persons word for it. If it does not line up with God’s written word then it needs to be tossed aside. The ultimate teacher as we know, is the Holy Spirit and if a believer is truly seeking truth then Holy Spirit will reveal the truth. However, we must be teachable. Jeremiah also likes to play the role of God and Holy Spirit at times appearing as if he knows who is and who is not going to heaven. The only one who knows is God Himself. The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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10/25/2009 2:26 pm |
SOARINGWITHCHRIS YOU SAID: HOW IN GOD's Almighty name do you people sleep at night! I sleep very well at night, on my left side. Thank you for asking. The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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10/25/2009 2:31 pm |
HIS4EVER Great to have you on my Blog and thank for your responses.  The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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10/25/2009 2:38 pm |
Soaring, the blogs are typically slow through the weekend. I doubt contention has killed this site, as that seems to have been the Hallmark for a very long time, and somehow the website thrives. I'm curious to know why these women and myself should hold our peace while Andrew (Jeremiah1five) is challenging these women to come forward. They have, and now somehow you've manipulated that it's their fault ---- again and again and again. These women were silent for a very long time until Andrew started bringing accusations against them - again. Thank you for your response. The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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10/25/2009 2:42 pm |
GODWHISPERS YOU SAID: Now entertain me if you will.... WHY do people need to be informed of any persons criminal convictions here on BC? You ask WHY? Would you not want to know if one of your friends, potential friends, acquaintances, associates, etc was a convicted pedophile / sex offender? You are an intelligent woman, so you cannot deny that people do meet in person who initially met on line and some couples do even get married. We also know the majority of convicted pedophiles / sex offenders deny what they have done. Jeremiah claims he is innocent – maybe he is, maybe he is not. IF, he is innocent, why was he sent back to prison? This man from the beginning has claimed he is a prophet sent here to BC to set us all straight on the doctrine we have chosen to believe. His approach has been one of condemnation, control, manipulation, etc. Pedophiles are all about control. Jeremiah’s blog about whether he should stay or go is all about control and manipulation. If he were a true prophet, he would NOT have to go to anyone other than God to get direction. Is not a prophet one who hears directly from God? I do NOT care about a person’s criminal history. However, when it comes to sex crimes – I CARE and so should everyone! I have yet to meet a sex offender who has been completely set free from this behaviour. Have you met any? YOU SAID: I don't TRUST you ... You, do NOT have trust me. I am not asking for your trust. The only one you need and should trust is God, and God alone. The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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10/25/2009 4:24 pm |
Amen and Amen Rosa!!!! if people on the blogs arent going to listen so be it!! Its their choice who they align with in here!! Its hilarious to me everyone is irked at me for changing handles so many times--its because of attacks from--well we wont go there lol--it dosent even matter--BUT jeremiah has --it seems--changed his story many many times and no one even blinks an eye!!!
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10/25/2009 9:06 pm |
GODWHISPERS YOU SAID: Now entertain me if you will.... WHY do people need to be informed of any persons criminal convictions here on BC? You ask WHY? Would you not want to know if one of your friends, potential friends, acquaintances, associates, etc was a convicted pedophile / sex offender? You are an intelligent woman, so you cannot deny that people do meet in person who initially met on line and some couples do even get married. We also know the majority of convicted pedophiles / sex offenders deny what they have done. Jeremiah claims he is innocent – maybe he is, maybe he is not. IF, he is innocent, why was he sent back to prison? This man from the beginning has claimed he is a prophet sent here to BC to set us all straight on the doctrine we have chosen to believe. His approach has been one of condemnation, control, manipulation, etc. Pedophiles are all about control. Jeremiah’s blog about whether he should stay or go is all about control and manipulation. If he were a true prophet, he would NOT have to go to anyone other than God to get direction. Is not a prophet one who hears directly from God? I do NOT care about a person’s criminal history. However, when it comes to sex crimes – I CARE and so should everyone! I have yet to meet a sex offender who has been completely set free from this behaviour. Have you met any? YOU SAID: I don't TRUST you ... You, do NOT have trust me. I am not asking for your trust. The only one you need and should trust is God, and God alone. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/25/2009 10:46 pm |
A sex offender who has been completely set free from his bahaviour? Yes, I know two men as a matter of fact who have been set FREE from the DEMON of sexual perversion. Let me ask you this, do you believe that GOD can COMPLETELY DELIVER ones soul of any and ALL demons that possess ones soul? I myself have been a VICTIM of sexual abuse and I chose to TRULY FORGIVE my perpertrater because GOD told me that it was a VITAL PART of MY OWN PERSONAL FREEDOM. SEXUAL PERVERSION is a sickness, a mental disease that OVERPOWERS the mind and soul and ONLY GOD CAN DELIVER and HEAL... One more thing, you show great BIAS when you say YOU do not care about a persons criminal history yet, you state that when it comes to SEX CRIMES you do care. You also say that everyone else should care as well. A crime is a crime, there is NOT ONE GREATER or LESS THAN in the eyes of GOD, wrong is wrong and SIN IS SIN...
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10/26/2009 1:52 am |
Perhaps Steve thinks this is entertaining, perhaps Priscilla thinks we are condemning, and I'm pretty sure that Andrew is trying to cause division, but I know of a Biblical principle that what Satan intends to use for evil, God uses for good, and that because of Andrews lies, judgments, forming alliances, and calling out enemies; five people here in Blogland that hardly knew each other before, are beginning to become friends. The Word says that one of us can make a thousand flee, and that two can put ten thousand on the run. What then can five of us do? Ole Jeremiah done went and opened up a godly version of Pandoria's box. We should feel sorry for him. Feel very sorry for him. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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10/26/2009 8:42 am |
The one thing that suprises me about all this Byron is--Jeremiah hasnt said one word the last few days about Rosa or His bringing out the truth finally--because he cant refute what they are saying!! So Steve and Priscilla--and others are coming and posting inhis defense--hmm--interesting!! The word is called Discernment Bloggers!!! I just dont get it why everyione beleives him!!!!! Oh yes its called control and manipulation and he does both so well!!
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10/26/2009 4:41 pm |
The one thing that suprises me about all this Byron is--Jeremiah hasnt said one word the last few days about Rosa or His bringing out the truth finally--because he cant refute what they are saying!! So Steve and Priscilla--and others are coming and posting inhis defense--hmm--interesting!! The word is called Discernment Bloggers!!! I just dont get it why everyione beleives him!!!!! Oh yes its called control and manipulation and he does both so well!! Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/26/2009 4:52 pm |
Perhaps Steve thinks this is entertaining, perhaps Priscilla thinks we are condemning, and I'm pretty sure that Andrew is trying to cause division, but I know of a Biblical principle that what Satan intends to use for evil, God uses for good, and that because of Andrews lies, judgments, forming alliances, and calling out enemies; five people here in Blogland that hardly knew each other before, are beginning to become friends. The Word says that one of us can make a thousand flee, and that two can put ten thousand on the run. What then can five of us do? Ole Jeremiah done went and opened up a godly version of Pandoria's box. We should feel sorry for him. Feel very sorry for him. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/26/2009 5:30 pm |
YOUR sympathy needs to be DIRECTED some place else Byron.... you ALL need to CHECK YOURSELVES! A GODLY version of PANDORAS BOX? Come on, what a FRICKEN JOKE! The word also says that if YOU OFFEND one of GODS OWN, YOU ARE OFFENDING HIM!
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10/26/2009 8:38 pm |
whispers--I have no hatred towards anyone --not even Jeremiah!! The truth finally came out after these to ladies kept silent for many months--Jeremiah hasnt refuted any of it because he cant!!! The guy pushes his Non biblical crap on here you buy it hook line and stinker--yea girl--you have no discernment--or are YOU a Calvinist also --might try readin your bible Prissy--the Lord died for the whole world when he hung on that cross--not just an elite few as Jeremiah teaches withhis heresy!! But beleive what you want --its your choice!!!
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10/26/2009 8:49 pm |
Prissy, I don't believe God's word says: "if YOU OFFEND one of GODS OWN, YOU ARE OFFENDING HIM!" Where does it say that? God's word says that he will defend his own, but we must first be walking right. He disciplines his children first, and then he will deal with the one causing a problem. 13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. It is NOT THE WILL OF THE FATHER that Jeremiah should PERISH so wouldn't all this STONE CASTING OFFEND GOD? Of course it does, now who was it that said on this blog post that said something about DISCERNMENT? Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/27/2009 1:30 am |
whispers--I have no hatred towards anyone --not even Jeremiah!! The truth finally came out after these to ladies kept silent for many months--Jeremiah hasnt refuted any of it because he cant!!! The guy pushes his Non biblical crap on here you buy it hook line and stinker--yea girl--you have no discernment--or are YOU a Calvinist also --might try readin your bible Prissy--the Lord died for the whole world when he hung on that cross--not just an elite few as Jeremiah teaches withhis heresy!! But beleive what you want --its your choice!!! Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/27/2009 3:56 am |
Godwhispers--time to take your meds lol
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10/27/2009 8:29 am |
Godwhispers--time to take your meds lol Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/27/2009 9:05 am |
Perhaps Steve thinks this is entertaining, perhaps Priscilla thinks we are condemning, and I'm pretty sure that Andrew is trying to cause division, but I know of a Biblical principle that what Satan intends to use for evil, God uses for good, and that because of Andrews lies, judgments, forming alliances, and calling out enemies; five people here in Blogland that hardly knew each other before, are beginning to become friends. The Word says that one of us can make a thousand flee, and that two can put ten thousand on the run. What then can five of us do? Ole Jeremiah done went and opened up a godly version of Pandoria's box. We should feel sorry for him. Feel very sorry for him.
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10/27/2009 9:57 am |
Listen msMULTIPLEpersonality you think just because YOU read the bible that YOUR nonsense holds some MERIT? Well it doesn't, YOU are just as IDIOTIC as Joe Blow down the street! You don't know why Jeremiah hasn't posted on this blog and you are merely going by YOUR assumptions, AGAIN! I have DISCERNMENT and my DISCERNMENT tells me that YOU have MAJOR issues that need ATTENTION! I'll tell you what I WILL NOT BUY INTO and that's all the GARBAGE that you continue to post against Jeremiah just because he has PUT YOU IN YOUR PLACE! Let me ask you some questions. 1. Have you spent hours and hours, nite after nite after nite on the phone with Jeremiah for several months? 2. Has Jeremiah asked you for your personal address, for your place of employment? 3. If you have children has he ever asked you their names, ages and personal information about them? 4. Has Jeremiah told you repeatedly that the way you perceive what you read in the scriptures is wrong? 5. Has Jeremiah told you that the way you go about witnessing to family, friends, neighbors, strangers is completely wrong and if you listen to him you will learn the correct way? 6. Has Jeremiah told you that what your pastor is teaching/preaching is wrong and that what you need to do is download the bible program he uses and spend time with him learning this program because it is the right one to be used? 7. Has he asked you for money yet? You see Godwhispers, all of these things happened to me. Jeremiah called me every single nite and the conversations were never less than 1 hour and some lasted as much as 4, maybe 5 hours. When I look now at what the conversation involved I realize that Jeremiah was not an encourager but a discourager. He was always wanting information about any of the other BC members that I got close to becasue they were mostly people that would not get involved with him. I did think it rather strange that he spent so much time talking to me on the phone when he proclaimed to have a woman, HisBelovedOne2, that he loved deeply, yet had never met her. He said that he talked to her before he would call me and that she understood why he was talking to me. I do not hate Jeremiah, I love Jeremiah the same as I love you and the other BC members here. BUT, I do not LIKE Jeremiah nor do I like the things that he does, or the way that he manipulates, especially women. And, the Bible does not tell me anywhere that I do have to LIKE him. I cannot say why he is not responding to Rosaceae because I do not know what interactions occurred with them. I only have feelings as to why he is not responding to me, here or personally and that is because he knows deep in his heart that what I have said is the truth. He cannot deny the phone calls because I have my monthly phone statements to prove the calls. He cant deny the email asking for money because I still have it. He cant deny the phone call after being released from prison asking me to write a post on BC telling him when it is a good time to start talking again because I have saved the message on my phone. I kept silent for a very, very long time. He is the one that rustled this mess up again. All of you can continue to follow him, believe in him, agree with him, that is your decision. I am not going to tell you not to. I just know for myself that I will not allow him or anyone like him to ever get ahold of my life in that way ever again. Somewhere every 10 seconds there's a woman giving birth to a child. She must be found and stopped!
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10/27/2009 1:21 pm |
Whispers---yes there are many areas in my life that I still need to surrender and need healing in--and I;m the first to admit that!! As far as casting stones at Jeremiah--I;m sorry if you felt I was attacking your friend--but I dont trust the guy--He says he didnt do the crime he was in jail for--he may not have--but NO one in here truly knows the answer to that Whispers!! MY abuser Sill says he never did the things he did to me from age 4 on---he is above reproach he believes and yes maybe my personal experience did hinder my viewpoint on Jeremiah--but I dont trust him!!!! I also dontlike the fact in here its his biblical Viewpoint or the hyway--have you read the names he calls those who arent Calvinists in here??? My Bible says---For God so loved the World--not the elect few--that he gave his only begotten son.... 35 yrsa go I accepted Christ but I do beleive in my mothers womb he knew me and planned things to work out--circumstances etc so I might surrender my life to him at a young age!! Jeremiahs viewpoint reminds me of thre JW's who beleive only 144,000 will make it!! If he came in here and simply gave HIS vie won things and wasnt so condeming of those of us who dont beelive as he does--fine--but he dosent do that does he??? he does exaclty the opposite!! That's why I have aproblem with him!!
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10/27/2009 3:29 pm |
Quoting Jeremiah! I know you are watching. I know because since I've become more actively on the Blog Page, you've been visiting my blogs almost every week. But you don't post. All you do is watch and plot. This is not true Jeremiah,every one knows you can see who visits your blog,and rosaceae is far from stupid,she was not plotting I have done the same thing,I visited many blogs here,and did not answer for the longest time,my reason for reading the blogs,the magazine kind of went dead,and just thought i would take a look at blog land,and I enjoyed reading what some had to say,EVEN YOU. For the few of you here who don't trust rosaceae,you just don't know her,she is a God fearing child of God,and a protector of people. I have known rosaceae since the first day I arrived on the BC site and she has always treated me with the highest respect,she is no PHONY,She has helped me with study,and she is one of the most UN- SELFISH people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting,those of you who were not here when all this was going on,may be hearing things that will verify the nature of rosaceae,Like the time she had to be the one to announce the death of a member on this site.these things are not easily forgotten..you may hear about the good the bad and the ugly....rosaceae is not the bad or the ugly...and neither is his4ever... this is a title for a few others to claim...Amen Love & prayers K
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10/27/2009 4:21 pm |
Godwhispers, Let me ask you some questions. 1. Have you spent hours and hours, nite after nite after nite on the phone with Jeremiah for several months? 2. Has Jeremiah asked you for your personal address, for your place of employment? 3. If you have children has he ever asked you their names, ages and personal information about them? 4. Has Jeremiah told you repeatedly that the way you perceive what you read in the scriptures is wrong? 5. Has Jeremiah told you that the way you go about witnessing to family, friends, neighbors, strangers is completely wrong and if you listen to him you will learn the correct way? 6. Has Jeremiah told you that what your pastor is teaching/preaching is wrong and that what you need to do is download the bible program he uses and spend time with him learning this program because it is the right one to be used? 7. Has he asked you for money yet? You see Godwhispers, all of these things happened to me. Jeremiah called me every single nite and the conversations were never less than 1 hour and some lasted as much as 4, maybe 5 hours. When I look now at what the conversation involved I realize that Jeremiah was not an encourager but a discourager. He was always wanting information about any of the other BC members that I got close to becasue they were mostly people that would not get involved with him. I did think it rather strange that he spent so much time talking to me on the phone when he proclaimed to have a woman, HisBelovedOne2, that he loved deeply, yet had never met her. He said that he talked to her before he would call me and that she understood why he was talking to me. I do not hate Jeremiah, I love Jeremiah the same as I love you and the other BC members here. BUT, I do not LIKE Jeremiah nor do I like the things that he does, or the way that he manipulates, especially women. And, the Bible does not tell me anywhere that I do have to LIKE him. I cannot say why he is not responding to Rosaceae because I do not know what interactions occurred with them. I only have feelings as to why he is not responding to me, here or personally and that is because he knows deep in his heart that what I have said is the truth. He cannot deny the phone calls because I have my monthly phone statements to prove the calls. He cant deny the email asking for money because I still have it. He cant deny the phone call after being released from prison asking me to write a post on BC telling him when it is a good time to start talking again because I have saved the message on my phone. I kept silent for a very, very long time. He is the one that rustled this mess up again. All of you can continue to follow him, believe in him, agree with him, that is your decision. I am not going to tell you not to. I just know for myself that I will not allow him or anyone like him to ever get ahold of my life in that way ever again. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/27/2009 8:30 pm |
Quoting Jeremiah! I know you are watching. I know because since I've become more actively on the Blog Page, you've been visiting my blogs almost every week. But you don't post. All you do is watch and plot. This is not true Jeremiah,every one knows you can see who visits your blog,and rosaceae is far from stupid,she was not plotting I have done the same thing,I visited many blogs here,and did not answer for the longest time,my reason for reading the blogs,the magazine kind of went dead,and just thought i would take a look at blog land,and I enjoyed reading what some had to say,EVEN YOU. For the few of you here who don't trust rosaceae,you just don't know her,she is a God fearing child of God,and a protector of people. I have known rosaceae since the first day I arrived on the BC site and she has always treated me with the highest respect,she is no PHONY,She has helped me with study,and she is one of the most UN- SELFISH people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting,those of you who were not here when all this was going on,may be hearing things that will verify the nature of rosaceae,Like the time she had to be the one to announce the death of a member on this site.these things are not easily forgotten..you may hear about the good the bad and the ugly....rosaceae is not the bad or the ugly...and neither is his4ever... this is a title for a few others to claim...Amen Love & prayers K It seems that Andrew (Jer) feels that he's a protector of the sheep, yet he drives numerous people off, and some falsely call him a keeper of the gate. I guess Rosa is protecting the sheep for a worthy cause, and we ought to bless her for her unselfish work here, along with his4ever for stepping forward to address the accusations. It takes a lot of courage to stand up to someone like Jeremiah1five.
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10/27/2009 11:36 pm |
Forgotu: "For the few of you here who don't trust rosaceae, you just don't know her, she is a God fearing child of God,and a protector of people." It seems that Andrew (Jer) feels that he's a protector of the sheep, yet he drives numerous people off, and some falsely call him a keeper of the gate. I guess Rosa is protecting the sheep for a worthy cause, and we ought to bless her for her unselfish work here, along with his4ever for stepping forward to address the accusations. It takes a lot of courage to stand up to someone like Jeremiah1five. Thank you for all of the kind words and support you have given. I have to tell you that for me it didnt take a lot of courage to stand up to Jeremiah, that was the easy part. What has taken courage has been to tell different parts of my personal life, which I took a lot of criticism for at time, and how God has so graciously brought me through each trial. It also takes a lot of courage to face the ones that dont want to listen to the truth and honestly my heart aches for them, especially the women that are so drawn to him. I see it in what they write and the best thing I can do after I say what I say is just pray for protection for them. I have to say, these past few days have just drained me. I dont know how you and others can do this every single day. I pray that God blesses your life greatly...His4ever, Marianne Somewhere every 10 seconds there's a woman giving birth to a child. She must be found and stopped!
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10/28/2009 6:06 am |
Longing4more, Thank you for all of the kind words and support you have given. I have to tell you that for me it didnt take a lot of courage to stand up to Jeremiah, that was the easy part. What has taken courage has been to tell different parts of my personal life, which I took a lot of criticism for at time, and how God has so graciously brought me through each trial. It also takes a lot of courage to face the ones that dont want to listen to the truth and honestly my heart aches for them, especially the women that are so drawn to him. I see it in what they write and the best thing I can do after I say what I say is just pray for protection for them. I have to say, these past few days have just drained me. I dont know how you and others can do this every single day. I pray that God blesses your life greatly...His4ever, Marianne Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/28/2009 6:42 am |
YOUR TRUTH his, YOUR TRUTH does not nessessarily mean the TRUTH. Takes alot of courage to face the ones who don't want to listen? What a "CROCK" Marianne, and your heart aches for the women that are drawn to him? YOU are a VINDICTIVE woman and you are operating out of HATE! Longing does it all the time, that is part of who she is, yet she REFUSES to acknowlegde that part of herself. There was a time where I had the UTMOST respect for you Marianne, but after this post, I see the SPIRIT of LONGING/Gloria.... You dont have to listen to me, you arent going to listen to me, you arent going to listen to anyone. I have to wonder why you are even involved in all of this, other than maybe you are one of the drama queens here. How dare you say at one time you had the utmost respect for me? You dont have a clue what respect is. The only thing I have ever seen come out of your mouth not only towards me but to others also is mean and hateful remarks. You are the female part of Jeremiah, if we dont agree with you its your wrath, wrath, wrath. I personally could care less whether or not you think I am telling the truth, because WHO ARE YOU?....YOU ARE NOBODY....at least nobody important. Now I have to go and repent for acting like you for a moment. Somewhere every 10 seconds there's a woman giving birth to a child. She must be found and stopped!
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10/28/2009 5:37 pm |
Godwhispers, You dont have to listen to me, you arent going to listen to me, you arent going to listen to anyone. I have to wonder why you are even involved in all of this, other than maybe you are one of the drama queens here. How dare you say at one time you had the utmost respect for me? You dont have a clue what respect is. The only thing I have ever seen come out of your mouth not only towards me but to others also is mean and hateful remarks. You are the female part of Jeremiah, if we dont agree with you its your wrath, wrath, wrath. I personally could care less whether or not you think I am telling the truth, because WHO ARE YOU?....YOU ARE NOBODY....at least nobody important. Now I have to go and repent for acting like you for a moment.
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10/28/2009 10:41 pm |
can you please tell me where this is in scripture book chapter and verse.......The Word says that one of us can make a thousand flee, and that two can put ten thousand on the run....thank you i can't seem to find it Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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10/29/2009 12:26 am |
YOUR sympathy needs to be DIRECTED some place else Byron.... you ALL need to CHECK YOURSELVES! A GODLY version of PANDORAS BOX? Come on, what a FRICKEN JOKE! The word also says that if YOU OFFEND one of GODS OWN, YOU ARE OFFENDING HIM! But let's talk about this issue of being offended, and let's start with Scripture. Mat 15:12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? Mat 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. Mat 26:31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. It is my understanding from the Bible that when the Word is spoken, people DO get offended. Jesus even told us so. Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. Joh 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. That's why the early church was persecuted. That's why those involved in the reformation were persecuted. That is why the Charismatics are persecuted by the main line Protestants. And that is why Andrew is offended. I'll get back to this, but first let's look at your usage, or rather misuse of Scripture. Mar 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. I'm sure this is the one you are eluding to, and if you read the context, it specifies offending children who believe, so your usage is incorrect, but even if it wasn't, let's look at who's doing the real offending, and exactly what that offense is. Everything that has been said of Andrew by myself, and these 4 women is true. Every word written by each of us is truth, and can be easily documented as such. Nothing spoken about Andrew has been done in judgment, or condemnation. No threats, or put downs or name calling has been made against Andrew. Only truth has been spoken concerning this man. On the other hand, Andrew has openly proclaimed all five of us (myself, Gloria, DeeDee, Maryanne, and Rosa) as being unsaved unbelievers. Where is this claim coming from? Andrew claims this is discernment, but it is false discernment. Now think about this Priscilla. Do your really think that I am not saved? What about Gloria, DeeDee, Maryanne, and Rosa? Can you prove that they are unsaved? For that matter can you prove that Andrew IS saved? Can you prove that you are saved? Andrew calls us false brethren, but whose really the false brethren? 2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Andrew has accused us of having an E-mail campaign to other bloggers telling them about his past. Yet no proof has been produced to back up his accusations against us. How does he know this has been going on when he has no proof? Oh, right, that's his discernment again. His discernment is not discernment, but fault finding, and the same is true of your so called discernment. He claims we have slandered him, but it is he who has slandered us. He says we have no grace because we don't understand grace. But who's been doing the forgiving? and who has offered to pray for whom? And what kind of response was made in the face extending the olive branch? Who is calling out their enemies, and spoken against them in anger, hate, judgment, and condemnation? Who on the other hand has been saying all along that they don't hate the one who has made the offenses? Who feels sorry for the other? Who has asked others for help in a battle he started?, and who has not asked anyone for help? Who is proclaiming themselves as righteous, and calling the other sinners, and who is saying they and those on the other side of this conflict are simply forgiven sinners just like everyone that God has given his grace to? Andrew brings a lot of exhaltation to himself, claiming himself to be a solder for God, and a prophet. How many reknown men and women of God speak of themselves that way? Have you ever heard any self promotion from the likes of Billy Gram, Joel Olsteen, Joyce Meyers, Melissa Scott, Benny Hinn, or your pastor? No, and you won't either. Godly people don't promote themselves, they promote Jesus. Men and women who truely speak for God do not exhalt themselves by telling others who they are or what authority they have. The Word they speak has all the authority they need. The only prophets who speak on their own behalf are false prophets. Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. This is what Andrew is, a false prophet, and how do I know? Not by discernment, but by the Word of God. False prophets claim to have discernment which can't be proved and that's supposed to make them above reproach and give them merit. But God's true prophets don't claim to have discernment, they just do their discerning and speak it forth, and the merit is in their words. Priscilla, don't take anything anything anyone says as truth, except for the Word of God. If what is spoken agrees with the Word, then it is truth and discernment. If it does not, then it is lies and fault finding. The one who needs to redirect themselves is you. God doesn't use lies, manipulations, false claims, and accusations against brethern. The spirit convicts, but it doesn't condemn, and then it only convicts one's self of their own, not that of others. You got to ask yourself, who is genuine, and who is counterfit? Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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10/29/2009 8:52 am |
Great Post Byron---Thank you for such Wisdom!! I did attack Jeremiah though in not a good way and was banned from any more personal blogs which is fine with me--i repnted before the Lord for the thing I posted against him---and if I had the opportunity I have also told him How sorry I was for posting that particular blog --it was only up for a few hours so I think 9 people read it--but Chris--e-mailed it to headquarters and to 30 others in here--talk about a vindictive Spirit but I ownt even go there--he has his supporters also---but the other issues about Andrew are true--he has never offered Grace to others on here--only his friends netowrk and he called Chris pagan over and over yet allowed HIM also on his friends netowrk--seems very unusal to me Andrew--who only beleives Calvinists are going to heaven is kissing up to all these who are not Calvinists!!! He has his friends but are his friends going to heaven--not in Andrews theology!!
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10/29/2009 11:47 am |
Priscilla; my sympathy IS directed correctly. I have checked myself, again and again. I am correct and you are not. But let's talk about this issue of being offended, and let's start with Scripture. Mat 15:12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? Mat 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. Mat 26:31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. It is my understanding from the Bible that when the Word is spoken, people DO get offended. Jesus even told us so. Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. Joh 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. That's why the early church was persecuted. That's why those involved in the reformation were persecuted. That is why the Charismatics are persecuted by the main line Protestants. And that is why Andrew is offended. I'll get back to this, but first let's look at your usage, or rather misuse of Scripture. Mar 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. I'm sure this is the one you are eluding to, and if you read the context, it specifies offending children who believe, so your usage is incorrect, but even if it wasn't, let's look at who's doing the real offending, and exactly what that offense is. Everything that has been said of Andrew by myself, and these 4 women is true. Every word written by each of us is truth, and can be easily documented as such. Nothing spoken about Andrew has been done in judgment, or condemnation. No threats, or put downs or name calling has been made against Andrew. Only truth has been spoken concerning this man. On the other hand, Andrew has openly proclaimed all five of us (myself, Gloria, DeeDee, Maryanne, and Rosa) as being unsaved unbelievers. Where is this claim coming from? Andrew claims this is discernment, but it is false discernment. Now think about this Priscilla. Do your really think that I am not saved? What about Gloria, DeeDee, Maryanne, and Rosa? Can you prove that they are unsaved? For that matter can you prove that Andrew IS saved? Can you prove that you are saved? Andrew calls us false brethren, but whose really the false brethren? 2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Andrew has accused us of having an E-mail campaign to other bloggers telling them about his past. Yet no proof has been produced to back up his accusations against us. How does he know this has been going on when he has no proof? Oh, right, that's his discernment again. His discernment is not discernment, but fault finding, and the same is true of your so called discernment. He claims we have slandered him, but it is he who has slandered us. He says we have no grace because we don't understand grace. But who's been doing the forgiving? and who has offered to pray for whom? And what kind of response was made in the face extending the olive branch? Who is calling out their enemies, and spoken against them in anger, hate, judgment, and condemnation? Who on the other hand has been saying all along that they don't hate the one who has made the offenses? Who feels sorry for the other? Who has asked others for help in a battle he started?, and who has not asked anyone for help? Who is proclaiming themselves as righteous, and calling the other sinners, and who is saying they and those on the other side of this conflict are simply forgiven sinners just like everyone that God has given his grace to? Andrew brings a lot of exhaltation to himself, claiming himself to be a solder for God, and a prophet. How many reknown men and women of God speak of themselves that way? Have you ever heard any self promotion from the likes of Billy Gram, Joel Olsteen, Joyce Meyers, Melissa Scott, Benny Hinn, or your pastor? No, and you won't either. Godly people don't promote themselves, they promote Jesus. Men and women who truely speak for God do not exhalt themselves by telling others who they are or what authority they have. The Word they speak has all the authority they need. The only prophets who speak on their own behalf are false prophets. Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. This is what Andrew is, a false prophet, and how do I know? Not by discernment, but by the Word of God. False prophets claim to have discernment which can't be proved and that's supposed to make them above reproach and give them merit. But God's true prophets don't claim to have discernment, they just do their discerning and speak it forth, and the merit is in their words. Priscilla, don't take anything anything anyone says as truth, except for the Word of God. If what is spoken agrees with the Word, then it is truth and discernment. If it does not, then it is lies and fault finding. The one who needs to redirect themselves is you. God doesn't use lies, manipulations, false claims, and accusations against brethern. The spirit convicts, but it doesn't condemn, and then it only convicts one's self of their own, not that of others. You got to ask yourself, who is genuine, and who is counterfit? I trust this to be true, and myself personally believe it. Not sure where the reference is.
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10/29/2009 11:48 am |
Great Post Byron---Thank you for such Wisdom!! I did attack Jeremiah though in not a good way and was banned from any more personal blogs which is fine with me--i repnted before the Lord for the thing I posted against him---and if I had the opportunity I have also told him How sorry I was for posting that particular blog --it was only up for a few hours so I think 9 people read it--but Chris--e-mailed it to headquarters and to 30 others in here--talk about a vindictive Spirit but I ownt even go there--he has his supporters also---but the other issues about Andrew are true--he has never offered Grace to others on here--only his friends netowrk and he called Chris pagan over and over yet allowed HIM also on his friends netowrk--seems very unusal to me Andrew--who only beleives Calvinists are going to heaven is kissing up to all these who are not Calvinists!!! He has his friends but are his friends going to heaven--not in Andrews theology!!
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10/29/2009 6:08 pm |
OH Gloria--sooo glad you missed it--DeeDee wasnt being nice but I asked the Father to forgive me and its a done deal---oh the Portion Byron was talking about was so cool--because my Pastor just spoke on that--the Spirit always is specicfic in his dealings with us which bring us to repentance but the advasary is always very general in his accusations which brings condemnation!! For instance--the enemy might say Oh DeeDee just look at all the awful things you post--blah blah blah blah blah---and it brings you down which bring condemnation--BUT God says DeeDee--that blog you posted yesterday about Andrew and the crime he may have committed--and the things you said--which obviously I ownt name in this blog--wellthat is the HS bringing that to my attention and I removed the blog and imed repented deeply before the lord--BUT the enemy then used Chris and HE sent it to headquarters--which was fine--but he didnt stop there--he sent it to everyone on his BC e-maillist which is tons of people--BUT I had to forgive him also for doing that--he is very childish and most of the things he does he acts like a bratty 4 yr old--so I let it go!! That wasnt worth my time getting upset over!!!
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10/29/2009 7:16 pm |
OH Gloria--sooo glad you missed it--DeeDee wasnt being nice but I asked the Father to forgive me and its a done deal---oh the Portion Byron was talking about was so cool--because my Pastor just spoke on that--the Spirit always is specicfic in his dealings with us which bring us to repentance but the advasary is always very general in his accusations which brings condemnation!! For instance--the enemy might say Oh DeeDee just look at all the awful things you post--blah blah blah blah blah---and it brings you down which bring condemnation--BUT God says DeeDee--that blog you posted yesterday about Andrew and the crime he may have committed--and the things you said--which obviously I ownt name in this blog--wellthat is the HS bringing that to my attention and I removed the blog and imed repented deeply before the lord--BUT the enemy then used Chris and HE sent it to headquarters--which was fine--but he didnt stop there--he sent it to everyone on his BC e-maillist which is tons of people--BUT I had to forgive him also for doing that--he is very childish and most of the things he does he acts like a bratty 4 yr old--so I let it go!! That wasnt worth my time getting upset over!!!
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10/29/2009 9:41 pm |
I agree--why he is defending Jeremiah I have no idea except its he wants to be on the popular bandwagon and he gets involved in many conflicts inhere for that reason!! He claims over and over he has so many friends on here and I;m sure he does--but his posts are meaningless banter that make no sense whatsoever!! Over 10,000 in 3 yrs and 99% mean nothing!! Very Sad!!
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10/30/2009 1:21 am |
Quoting" "The spirit convicts, but it doesn't condemn, and then it only convicts one's self of their own, not that of others." I trust this to be true, and myself personally believe it. Not sure where the reference is. Here in this first one, the word 'quickeneth' by literal usage is 'convicts' or drawing attention to fleshly attitudes God wants us to work on. Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Here area few of several references spread over 3 chapters. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Joh 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of self righteousness, and of judgment: Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. This here is one of those whole chapter to get the context. Earlier in the chapter, Peter was shown by the spirit unclean animals and told what God had cleansed, don't call unclean. This was a conviction by the spirit of Peter's religious attitudes. Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Act 10:29 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me? Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8; is another one of those whole chapter areas, but here are a couple highlights. Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. 1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Here's yet another of those context passages, starting in verse 10 going all the way through 16. 1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Any and all of these could be among your reference. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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10/30/2009 1:31 am |
Girls; I think it may be prudent of us to let the Jerimiah1five issues sit for a few days. He's not been saying a lot himself, even though his supporters won't let up. They're not getting a lot of attention anyway, so let them ramble and hang themselves. Then we can't be justly accused of not letting it go. Besides, we have much better things to talk about. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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10/30/2009 8:43 am |
Amen--I totally agree--he has been silent because he cant refute what the 2 Precious ones brought out--and yes Whispers is still very much defending him but noone is listening--she will finally give up the Ghost soon I;m sure!!!
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10/30/2009 9:46 am |
Girls; I think it may be prudent of us to let the Jerimiah1five issues sit for a few days. He's not been saying a lot himself, even though his supporters won't let up. They're not getting a lot of attention anyway, so let them ramble and hang themselves. Then we can't be justly accused of not letting it go. Besides, we have much better things to talk about.
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10/30/2009 9:46 am |
Byron thanks for the scriptures, by the way.
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10/30/2009 10:51 pm |
Amen--I totally agree--he has been silent because he cant refute what the 2 Precious ones brought out--and yes Whispers is still very much defending him but noone is listening--she will finally give up the Ghost soon I;m sure!!! Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/30/2009 10:57 pm |
Godwhispers, You dont have to listen to me, you arent going to listen to me, you arent going to listen to anyone. I have to wonder why you are even involved in all of this, other than maybe you are one of the drama queens here. How dare you say at one time you had the utmost respect for me? You dont have a clue what respect is. The only thing I have ever seen come out of your mouth not only towards me but to others also is mean and hateful remarks. You are the female part of Jeremiah, if we dont agree with you its your wrath, wrath, wrath. I personally could care less whether or not you think I am telling the truth, because WHO ARE YOU?....YOU ARE NOBODY....at least nobody important. Now I have to go and repent for acting like you for a moment. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/30/2009 11:13 pm |
Godwhispers, You dont have to listen to me, you arent going to listen to me, you arent going to listen to anyone. I have to wonder why you are even involved in all of this, other than maybe you are one of the drama queens here. How dare you say at one time you had the utmost respect for me? You dont have a clue what respect is. The only thing I have ever seen come out of your mouth not only towards me but to others also is mean and hateful remarks. You are the female part of Jeremiah, if we dont agree with you its your wrath, wrath, wrath. I personally could care less whether or not you think I am telling the truth, because WHO ARE YOU?....YOU ARE NOBODY....at least nobody important. Now I have to go and repent for acting like you for a moment. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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10/31/2009 8:26 am |
LOL, now you have to repent for acting like me? Do you remember that telephone conversation that you and I had? Do you remember that it was a three way conversation? There was a third person there, do you remember who it was Marianne? Well after our conversation that night, this person told me that I needed to stay away from you because YOU were NOT RIGHT WITH GOD... You made the statement, and I wont take the time to look it up word for word, having to do with being a coward. That if someone were to stand in front of me I would run for fear. Would you like to give that a try? I have no intentions of running off anywhere. I also have no more interest in arguing with you. You live to bring grief in peoples lives and I refuse to let you play in my yard. Somewhere every 10 seconds there's a woman giving birth to a child. She must be found and stopped!
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11/5/2009 2:01 pm |
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11/11/2009 6:18 am |
Who said there's a female jezabel/jeremiah here.. kudo's to the person,we know who that is..!! GodIsMovinfByHisSpirit
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11/12/2009 5:15 pm |
I will post this on this subject and please think about it seriously before replying. Longing4more, are you confronting Jeremiah by the Holy Spirit? SpitfireGrill09, are you confronting Jeremiah by the Holy Spirit? hisforever2007, are you confronting Jeremiah by the Holy Spirit? Godwhispers, are you defending Jeremiah by the Holy Spirit? Ac 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Just be sure of where all this is coming from. I do not have proper discernment in this, but I just posted this for your sakes, not Jeremiahs.
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11/14/2009 7:22 pm |
I will post this on this subject and please think about it seriously before replying. Longing4more, are you confronting Jeremiah by the Holy Spirit? SpitfireGrill09, are you confronting Jeremiah by the Holy Spirit? hisforever2007, are you confronting Jeremiah by the Holy Spirit? Godwhispers, are you defending Jeremiah by the Holy Spirit? Ac 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Just be sure of where all this is coming from. I do not have proper discernment in this, but I just posted this for your sakes, not Jeremiahs. Actually the matter isn't as much of who's walking by the Holy Spirit as much as who is walking by the Bible, and more specificly, how the Bible says to walk in love. 1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. 1Jn 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 1Jn 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes. 1Jn 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Finally I know exactly where all this has come from. 1Jn 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. 1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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11/15/2009 8:05 am |
You forgot a question. You forgot to ask Andrew if he is accusing the rest of us by the Holy Spirit. But I can tell you already his answer will be yes. At least you are big enough to admit you don't have proper discernment in this, because he doesn't either, but claims that he does. Actually the matter isn't as much of who's walking by the Holy Spirit as much as who is walking by the Bible, and more specificly, how the Bible says to walk in love. 1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. 1Jn 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 1Jn 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes. 1Jn 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Finally I know exactly where all this has come from. 1Jn 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. 1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. Jeremiah has no power over them that they have not given to him. This is the power he has over them. By his accusations against them, he has provoked them to come against him out of the flesh. While they are doing this seeds are being planted in them. The solution of Jeremiah is simple, IGNORE. If they feel this way then they should ignore and move on. They think that by exposing him they are protecting people, but they are fooling themselves here. I posted this so they can break the power Jeremiah has over them. A man can have power over another by at least two means, either by having others agree with and support him or by having others disagree with him and argue with him. WHEN YOU REMOVE THE ASSOCIATION, YOU REMOVE THE POWER. Actually the matter isn't as much of who's walking by the Holy Spirit as much as who is walking by the Bible, and more specificly, how the Bible says to walk in love. Your statement. This is the root of conflict and disorganization amoung Christians today. Without the Spirit, you can not understand the Bible. It is not possible. Your statement implies a head knowledge which is therefore a knowledge in the flesh. The carnal mind (flesh) can not please God. And what does a man know of love, nothing. It is not possible for a man to love as the Bible says to, unless he has the Spirit of God inside of him and fueling that love. If we try to love like the Bible says to without His Spirit all we do is fail. On my own I can not love, for even when I want to do right my body fails me and does wrong. Who will save me from this condition? The Lord Jesus Christ. Anything good in us comes from Him.
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11/16/2009 10:50 pm |
Hisglory77, my reponse was not in support of Jeremiah but in concern for the ones I did ask. Jeremiah has no power over them that they have not given to him. This is the power he has over them. By his accusations against them, he has provoked them to come against him out of the flesh. While they are doing this seeds are being planted in them. The solution of Jeremiah is simple, IGNORE. If they feel this way then they should ignore and move on. They think that by exposing him they are protecting people, but they are fooling themselves here. I posted this so they can break the power Jeremiah has over them. A man can have power over another by at least two means, either by having others agree with and support him or by having others disagree with him and argue with him. WHEN YOU REMOVE THE ASSOCIATION, YOU REMOVE THE POWER. Actually the matter isn't as much of who's walking by the Holy Spirit as much as who is walking by the Bible, and more specificly, how the Bible says to walk in love. Your statement. This is the root of conflict and disorganization amoung Christians today. Without the Spirit, you can not understand the Bible. It is not possible. Your statement implies a head knowledge which is therefore a knowledge in the flesh. The carnal mind (flesh) can not please God. And what does a man know of love, nothing. It is not possible for a man to love as the Bible says to, unless he has the Spirit of God inside of him and fueling that love. If we try to love like the Bible says to without His Spirit all we do is fail. On my own I can not love, for even when I want to do right my body fails me and does wrong. Who will save me from this condition? The Lord Jesus Christ. Anything good in us comes from Him. But this was not what I was understanding your questions to mean. I was hearing you as if you were asking the questions from a prospect of walking in the spirit without the written Word of God. I'm convinced that this is what Andrew does, but I can't prove it because I don't have discernment on him via the spirit. I do see by my knowledge of Biblical principles that Andrew does not walk the Bible. The reason I know this is because I know spiritual discernment does not judge or pass judgments. Jesus commands us in Matt. 7; to do not judge others. That is what he means, so it is indisputable that we not judge others. Yet every single one of the discernment's that Andrew claims, without any exceptions, are judgments. This is a stark contradiction of the written Word of God, therefore, his discernment's can not have been of God. But he still insists that they are. If so, the only conclusion one can make is that someone is lying. Either Jesus lied, or Andrew lied. Well my money's on Andrew being the liar. True spiritual discernment will never contradict the written Word. It can only confirm it. Therefore Andrew's so called spiritual discernment has no authority, which makes him a false prophet. I don't claim to have discerned this spiritually, although ultimately it really is, because it takes a born again spirit to understand the Word. The spirit allows us to understand the Word within our own physical knowledge. It is within the realm of physically understanding the Bible that I can unequivocally know that Andrew's claim of spiritual discernment is a deception. My prior statements from 1st John does tie in as well with what you said. Yes just like it takes a born again spirit to understand the Bible, it also takes that same spirit to walk in the love of God. That's why it's called the love of God. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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