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7/3/2009 6:21 pm |
“thou shalt not wear a bikini” LOL... Wish we could all return to that innocents and run around butt naked lol Which I can almost do in my backyard now, as its becoming so private with the work we are doing with it.. via grape vines, fences.. You know Donna.. I was told by someone that dresses are somewhat suggestive to men. And that women should wear slips underneathe.. I asked, what is the diff in that and wearing a pair of shorts, you still see my legs, but nothing else.. why cant the onlooking get his mind out of the gutter haha.. arrrrghhhh so many rulez n regulations.. do this, dont do that CANTCHA READ THE SIGNS! lol
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7/4/2009 11:23 am |
So for a hypothetical question can it be a hypothetical answer? If so I'll just say, "It depends!" 
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7/4/2009 12:22 pm |
“thou shalt not wear a bikini” LOL... Wish we could all return to that innocents and run around butt naked lol Which I can almost do in my backyard now, as its becoming so private with the work we are doing with it.. via grape vines, fences.. You know Donna.. I was told by someone that dresses are somewhat suggestive to men. And that women should wear slips underneathe.. I asked, what is the diff in that and wearing a pair of shorts, you still see my legs, but nothing else.. why cant the onlooking get his mind out of the gutter haha.. arrrrghhhh so many rulez n regulations.. do this, dont do that CANTCHA READ THE SIGNS! lol I'm still waiting for someone to explain this we can sin thing...how it works, etc.... I don't consider that a sin but using it as an example. To Him be the glory.
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7/4/2009 12:25 pm |
This is soooo cool. I figured out how to have full BC on mobile. To Him be the glory.
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7/4/2009 12:49 pm |
Hi, jesus4me66! It's not a matter of "Wear this" or "Don't wear that." It's a matter of the heart. We as women of God shouldn't want to dress in such a way as to help create lust in a man's heart. They have enough trouble in that area without us adding to it! LOL If we want to wear a bikini, shirt/dress that shows our cleavage, short shorts, etc, in front of men, we need to ask ourselves why we want to do that. Is it to stay cool? Or is it because we get a secret thrill out of turning men on? If it's to stay cool, there are more modest ways to stay cool. If it's because we get a secret thrill out of turning men on, then that's a desire in the heart that we need to ask God to cleanse. This doesn't mean we have to go around wearing croker saks, either! LOL There are lots of different materials and designs out there that afford us the opportunity to dress modestly yet be very attractive at the same time. If a man looks at us and lusts, even though we're dressed modestly, then it becomes his problem in the heart to deal with and not ours. Now, to your hypothetical question: First of all, when we commit a certain act of sin, there's first a desire to commit that sin. If we realize there's a certain sin we desire to commit, we need to confess this to the Lord. Be honest with Him about our desire, about what we want to do, and ask Him to cleanse us of that desire and to strengthen us to not to follow thru with that desire. Now if we choose to follow thru with that desire and commit that act of sin, that exposes an area of the heart that we need to let the Lord cleanse. Being human as we are, we will have sinful desires at times. Sometimes we will overcome those desires and sometimes we won't. The flesh will get the best of us at times. We who believe and are trusting in Christ's finished work on the cross for eternal salvation, have forgiveness, though. We do not become sinless robots after we are saved. We are still human and are a work in progress. If we are truly saved, our desire to sin will be much less than before we were saved. Back to the bikini!  God will convict our hearts in the areas where we need to be more Christlike. Hope you have a happy 4th of July! Captured by HIS LOVE  Kept by HIS GRACE 
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7/4/2009 2:52 pm |
Hi, jesus4me66! It's not a matter of "Wear this" or "Don't wear that." It's a matter of the heart. We as women of God shouldn't want to dress in such a way as to help create lust in a man's heart. They have enough trouble in that area without us adding to it! LOL If we want to wear a bikini, shirt/dress that shows our cleavage, short shorts, etc, in front of men, we need to ask ourselves why we want to do that. Is it to stay cool? Or is it because we get a secret thrill out of turning men on? If it's to stay cool, there are more modest ways to stay cool. If it's because we get a secret thrill out of turning men on, then that's a desire in the heart that we need to ask God to cleanse. This doesn't mean we have to go around wearing croker saks, either! LOL There are lots of different materials and designs out there that afford us the opportunity to dress modestly yet be very attractive at the same time. If a man looks at us and lusts, even though we're dressed modestly, then it becomes his problem in the heart to deal with and not ours. Now, to your hypothetical question: First of all, when we commit a certain act of sin, there's first a desire to commit that sin. If we realize there's a certain sin we desire to commit, we need to confess this to the Lord. Be honest with Him about our desire, about what we want to do, and ask Him to cleanse us of that desire and to strengthen us to not to follow thru with that desire. Now if we choose to follow thru with that desire and commit that act of sin, that exposes an area of the heart that we need to let the Lord cleanse. Being human as we are, we will have sinful desires at times. Sometimes we will overcome those desires and sometimes we won't. The flesh will get the best of us at times. We who believe and are trusting in Christ's finished work on the cross for eternal salvation, have forgiveness, though. We do not become sinless robots after we are saved. We are still human and are a work in progress. If we are truly saved, our desire to sin will be much less than before we were saved. Back to the bikini! God will convict our hearts in the areas where we need to be more Christlike. Hope you have a happy 4th of July! On the question...if we are God's own would He let us fall down in the first place? Seems to me that at the point of KNOWING that you are going to sin there should be a bell going off that says something is not quite right. To Him be the glory.
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7/4/2009 2:56 pm |
So for a hypothetical question can it be a hypothetical answer? If so I'll just say, "It depends!"  To Him be the glory.
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7/4/2009 6:08 pm |
There are no ugly women in the world, only those who do not know how to look pretty. God made woman beautiful and to be desired of men. Shield your temple of false idol worshipers of that beauty and only allow one servant into your holy of holies. The moral behaviors of a nation are determined by the women of that nation. When women go wrong the men go right after them. Respect these natural principles and have the joy of the Lord and an undefiled conscience. wear shorts over your proclivities. When you respect yourself... so will the men. Salvation is of the LORD
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7/4/2009 6:36 pm |
There are no ugly women in the world, only those who do not know how to look pretty. God made woman beautiful and to be desired of men. Shield your temple of false idol worshipers of that beauty and only allow one servant into your holy of holies. The moral behaviors of a nation are determined by the women of that nation. When women go wrong the men go right after them. Respect these natural principles and have the joy of the Lord and an undefiled conscience. wear shorts over your proclivities. When you respect yourself... so will the men. To Him be the glory.
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7/4/2009 7:58 pm |
Enough of the bikini or swimwear, it was only an example. The topic is the question. To Him be the glory.
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7/5/2009 1:02 am |
Enough of the bikini or swimwear, it was only an example. The topic is the question. The first half of my reply to you dealt with the bikini and the last half, I thought, dealt with your question. I'll try again! LOL Here's your questions: "Hypothetical question: IF “thou shalt not wear a bikini” was God’s law and I decided to just forgo that one and do it anyway since I was covered by the blood then what are the rules? If we are saved and covered by the blood of Christ, then the rules and the desire to follow those rules are found within the heart. If we decide to break one of those rules just because we know that the blood of Christ has our sins covered, then we have a problem area in the heart. Do I ask for forgiveness before I do it and repent afterward? When the blood of Christ covers us, then we are already forgiven of that sin even before we commit it. What we should be asking for, though, is for Him to strengthen us to overcome that desire to be disobedient, to cleanse us of that desire, to give us a more intimate love for Him, and to give us a greater willingness to be obedient. "Repent afterward?" Repent means to change one's mind, one's way of thinking, and to change one's actions accordingly. If we are under the mindset that we are deliberately going to sin just because we are already forgiven of it, then, yes, we need to repent of that mindset. Or just save it all until after the sin is committed? The attitude "I'll sin and then repent and ask for forgiveness" is not what grace, forgiveness, and eternally secure salvation is all about. Do I pretend or tell God that I’m incapable of NOT committing that sin? There's no pretending about it. On our own, we ARE incapable of NOT committing sin. We can tell God that if we want to, but He already knows it. His Spirit in us is what strengthens us to overcome temptation. How much we are strengthened depends upon how much we let Him strengthen us. If we choose to give in to the temptation, that in itself, exposes a problem area in our heart, an area in which we need to let the Lord change us. To answer a question you asked me earlier: "if we are God's own would He let us fall down in the first place?" Yes, He will. Here is one example out of many in the Bible. Jesus told Peter in Luke 22:31-32 "And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren." Peter was God's own. The Lord allowed satan to sift Peter, even while knowing that Peter would fall in the temptation. God allowed Peter to fall. An interesting thing, though, is that even though Peter's actions failed, his faith did not. And even though Peter sinned, the Lord kept him as His own. And it's by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross that we are made righteous and kept secure by Him. Captured by HIS LOVE Kept by HIS GRACE
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7/5/2009 8:00 am |
Are you saying that if I wear a bathing suit to the beach then I'm not respecting myself? So what's the problem with "the men of God" that have lust in their eyes when dressing modestly. They are the same ones who are the first to say that women need to cover up. God made women to be DESIRED of men. It matters not that you have a bikini on or a full length robe covering your whole body. Women were created to be DESIRED of men. What's the difference between panties and bikini? The thickness of the fabric? The print? The manufacturer? Open your eyes, woman, and understand that your loveliness should be veiled except to the man you marry. If the husband represents Christ, and the wife represents the Church (Bride), would there be sanctity if the Church wore a bikini and the world lusted after? Don't worry over "men of God" lusting, worry about the godliness of the daughters of the Lord. Christian women who are wearing bikinis have no shame nor modesty. It has been a very long time since I have seen a woman blush. Don't let the WORLD determine your morality or ethics. Our American free culture has lost its moral compass. It was THE WORLD that manufactured the bikini, not the Church! Your willingness to believe it is alright for a child of God to wear a bikini in public is compromise of the purity and sanctity and of the Spirit of God in the Church and this should be taught as such to our children so that they do not grow up compromised and corrupted. We are really blowing it with our children! Maybe this is the reason that God will dress us in clean white linen full-lrngth robes in glory... because we don't know how to dress ourselves here on earth. God help us. Salvation is of the LORD
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7/5/2009 8:53 am |
You did not understand my response. God made women to be DESIRED of men. It matters not that you have a bikini on or a full length robe covering your whole body. Women were created to be DESIRED of men. What's the difference between panties and bikini? The thickness of the fabric? The print? The manufacturer? Open your eyes, woman, and understand that your loveliness should be veiled except to the man you marry. If the husband represents Christ, and the wife represents the Church (Bride), would there be sanctity if the Church wore a bikini and the world lusted after? Don't worry over "men of God" lusting, worry about the godliness of the daughters of the Lord. Christian women who are wearing bikinis have no shame nor modesty. It has been a very long time since I have seen a woman blush. Don't let the WORLD determine your morality or ethics. Our American free culture has lost its moral compass. It was THE WORLD that manufactured the bikini, not the Church! Your willingness to believe it is alright for a child of God to wear a bikini in public is compromise of the purity and sanctity and of the Spirit of God in the Church and this should be taught as such to our children so that they do not grow up compromised and corrupted. We are really blowing it with our children! Maybe this is the reason that God will dress us in clean white linen full-lrngth robes in glory... because we don't know how to dress ourselves here on earth. God help us. I have NEVER had a problem with anyone looking at me with lust on the beach BUT I have had that day after day with men who preach the same as you do while wearing professional clothing. I work with the "religious" and believe me...clothing on a woman does not make the difference. It is the heart of the man who views her. By the way...I wear boyshorts swimwear and they are more than panties, they cover quite nicely and are of good taste. It is your mind that automatically assumes that I'm talking of thong bikinis. To Him be the glory.
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7/5/2009 9:12 am |
Hi, again, jesus4me66! The first half of my reply to you dealt with the bikini and the last half, I thought, dealt with your question. I'll try again! LOL Here's your questions: "Hypothetical question: IF “thou shalt not wear a bikini” was God’s law and I decided to just forgo that one and do it anyway since I was covered by the blood then what are the rules? If we are saved and covered by the blood of Christ, then the rules and the desire to follow those rules are found within the heart. If we decide to break one of those rules just because we know that the blood of Christ has our sins covered, then we have a problem area in the heart. Do I ask for forgiveness before I do it and repent afterward? When the blood of Christ covers us, then we are already forgiven of that sin even before we commit it. What we should be asking for, though, is for Him to strengthen us to overcome that desire to be disobedient, to cleanse us of that desire, to give us a more intimate love for Him, and to give us a greater willingness to be obedient. "Repent afterward?" Repent means to change one's mind, one's way of thinking, and to change one's actions accordingly. If we are under the mindset that we are deliberately going to sin just because we are already forgiven of it, then, yes, we need to repent of that mindset. Or just save it all until after the sin is committed? The attitude "I'll sin and then repent and ask for forgiveness" is not what grace, forgiveness, and eternally secure salvation is all about. Do I pretend or tell God that I’m incapable of NOT committing that sin? There's no pretending about it. On our own, we ARE incapable of NOT committing sin. We can tell God that if we want to, but He already knows it. His Spirit in us is what strengthens us to overcome temptation. How much we are strengthened depends upon how much we let Him strengthen us. If we choose to give in to the temptation, that in itself, exposes a problem area in our heart, an area in which we need to let the Lord change us. To answer a question you asked me earlier: "if we are God's own would He let us fall down in the first place?" Yes, He will. Here is one example out of many in the Bible. Jesus told Peter in Luke 22:31-32 "And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren." Peter was God's own. The Lord allowed satan to sift Peter, even while knowing that Peter would fall in the temptation. God allowed Peter to fall. An interesting thing, though, is that even though Peter's actions failed, his faith did not. And even though Peter sinned, the Lord kept him as His own. And it's by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross that we are made righteous and kept secure by Him. Yes, He does allow Satan to do his work with permission. I'll be addressing this comment more....hopefully. Right now I'm not able to read what you wrote and respond at the same time To Him be the glory.
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7/5/2009 11:07 am |
Are you saying that if I wear a bathing suit to the beach then I'm not respecting myself? So what's the problem with "the men of God" that have lust in their eyes when dressing modestly. They are the same ones who are the first to say that women need to cover up. Christians are like Timex watches. We take a lickin', but We keep on tickin'! Steve 
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7/5/2009 11:15 am |
You did not understand my response. God made women to be DESIRED of men. It matters not that you have a bikini on or a full length robe covering your whole body. Women were created to be DESIRED of men. What's the difference between panties and bikini? The thickness of the fabric? The print? The manufacturer? Open your eyes, woman, and understand that your loveliness should be veiled except to the man you marry. If the husband represents Christ, and the wife represents the Church (Bride), would there be sanctity if the Church wore a bikini and the world lusted after? Don't worry over "men of God" lusting, worry about the godliness of the daughters of the Lord. Christian women who are wearing bikinis have no shame nor modesty. It has been a very long time since I have seen a woman blush. Don't let the WORLD determine your morality or ethics. Our American free culture has lost its moral compass. It was THE WORLD that manufactured the bikini, not the Church! Your willingness to believe it is alright for a child of God to wear a bikini in public is compromise of the purity and sanctity and of the Spirit of God in the Church and this should be taught as such to our children so that they do not grow up compromised and corrupted. We are really blowing it with our children! Maybe this is the reason that God will dress us in clean white linen full-lrngth robes in glory... because we don't know how to dress ourselves here on earth. God help us. Are you saying that Donna isn't Godly because she wears a Bakini? You are a Joke! Christians are like Timex watches. We take a lickin', but We keep on tickin'! Steve
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7/5/2009 11:29 am |
I understand what you are saying and was raised to believe the same way. However, there are places in the Bible where Jesus said to sin no more and he says depart. He says that our righteousness must exceed those of the scribes and pharisees in order to enter the kingdom. I'm looking to see if there is any place where Jesus says that our future sins are forgiven but haven't run across that yet. Yes, He does allow Satan to do his work with permission. I'll be addressing this comment more....hopefully. Right now I'm not able to read what you wrote and respond at the same time You people think you know everything, but at the same time you know Nothing! I was NOT referring to you, Donna. Don't let these people ruin you with Religion! Everybody wants to be a Preacher! Did ANY of them get a calling from God? Christians are like Timex watches. We take a lickin', but We keep on tickin'! Steve
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7/5/2009 11:58 am |
Bakini or not, I would be looking into your eyes! To Him be the glory.
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7/5/2009 12:12 pm |
Why do people harp on the bikini? How about lying then since we can't seem to be able get our minds off the flesh? Or keep ourselves from judging and laying down a set of rules that MAN made up.  To Him be the glory.
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7/5/2009 1:53 pm |
You may think you know eveything, I am watching! Give me a break with your "Robes of Glory BullCrap! Are you saying that Donna isn't Godly because she wears a Bakini? You are a Joke! YOU SAID: "Are you saying that Donna isn't Godly because she wears a Bakini?" RESPONSE: 1 Thessalonians 5:22..."Abstain from all appearance of evil." 1 John 2:15-17..."Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever." The bikini is a thing of the world. It is a pride of life. P.S. I'm not laughing.  Salvation is of the LORD
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7/5/2009 2:38 pm |
I only know that which I speak of. Not everything. YOU SAID: "Are you saying that Donna isn't Godly because she wears a Bakini?" RESPONSE: 1 Thessalonians 5:22..."Abstain from all appearance of evil." 1 John 2:15-17..."Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever." The bikini is a thing of the world. It is a pride of life. P.S. I'm not laughing. A "thing" of the world is also YOUR rule. If I considered the puter that you are on a "thing", rules could be made just the same. To Him be the glory.
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7/5/2009 3:43 pm |
What's your gripe anyway? You're the one who started this bikini garbage! Do good Christian women drone on about being scantily clad in a public forum? Delete the post -- problem solved... ~ hic ~ * ~ belch ~ 
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7/5/2009 4:11 pm |
What's your gripe anyway? You're the one who started this bikini garbage! Do good Christian women drone on about being scantily clad in a public forum? Delete the post -- problem solved... ~ hic ~ * ~ belch ~ . First GOOD laugh I've had all day. Thanks dude! Why delete the post? This is lightwieght stuff...no griping here. Who said I was a "Christian" anyway? To Him be the glory.
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7/5/2009 5:26 pm |
That is YOU judging from scripture what is "evil". Just as you are trying to judge others which is a sin. The OT says covereth, the private parts, which they are. A "thing" of the world is also YOUR rule. If I considered the puter that you are on a "thing", rules could be made just the same. Yes, I judge. Hebrews 5:13-14..."For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for [s]he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Discern is translated into the Greek word for "judge." I am completely within Scripture. What Scripture are you using to reference "covering the private parts?" Salvation is of the LORD
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7/5/2009 5:32 pm |
. First GOOD laugh I've had all day. Thanks dude! Why delete the post? This is lightwieght stuff...no griping here. Who said I was a "Christian" anyway?
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7/5/2009 6:32 pm |
Judge? Yes, I judge. Hebrews 5:13-14..."For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for [s]he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Discern is translated into the Greek word for "judge." I am completely within Scripture. What Scripture are you using to reference "covering the private parts?" GREAT...you give me the right to judge. You are of Satan if you have soooo many issues with the flesh. You cannot have both the Father and Satan and where your mind is shows who your with. You are pushing your failures of the inability to keep your own desires in check onto other people. He can help you with that.... You focused on ONE part of the blog and one part only which show where the mind is. Can't fool me, I've been around people like you for waaaay too long. I know what you believe, I know how you think. And I know that you need to get over blaming others for where you fall short. To Him be the glory.
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7/5/2009 6:37 pm |
Well sugar plum, you seem to have a vat of grievances with the blogs, and my sentiments are if you don't like it here, then why do you stay? And this number is 666 To Him be the glory.
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7/5/2009 7:03 pm |
Hmmmm...sorry honey, can't answer that one. And this number is 666
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7/5/2009 7:23 pm |
666? Is that your prefix? Throw me a dime and the rest of your telephone number and maybe I'll hit you back, kewpie-doll! Will that work for ya? No? Well I'm not much of a phone person anyway....sweetheart. You need to clean youself up before you start hitting on women. To Him be the glory.
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7/5/2009 9:56 pm |
The scripture did not say private parts...that's my word, as I said before covereth. GREAT...you give me the right to judge. You are of Satan if you have soooo many issues with the flesh. You cannot have both the Father and Satan and where your mind is shows who your with. You are pushing your failures of the inability to keep your own desires in check onto other people. He can help you with that.... You focused on ONE part of the blog and one part only which show where the mind is. Can't fool me, I've been around people like you for waaaay too long. I know what you believe, I know how you think. And I know that you need to get over blaming others for where you fall short. You still haven't told me the difference between a pair of panties and a bikini. A bikini is not a thong but can be hip hugger or briefs, which is what I have in mind because according to the person who first fashioned the bikini in 1946, it was fashioned as a brief not a thong. I know the "private parts" mention were your words. You still haven't told me the Scripture in the "OT" you are speaking of. Avoiding the question on this thread I put to you does not strengthen your argument for bikini and I will tell you now that my weakness of flesh is not in the sexuality department. How would you know if a man is lusting for you on the beach? You can't. How can you take the position knowing that God created the woman to be desired of man (not lust), uphold a willingness to wear a bikini and then blame a man (or brother in Christ) for his failure to maintain self control? In your obstinacy and ignorance you would rush head long and a place a stumbling stone upon a brother and cause him to fall. And it is men like "soaringwitheagles" who cheer women with your sentiment to do those things they ought not. These are called "enablers". The Church need look elsewhere for true Christian role models. Salvation is of the LORD
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7/5/2009 10:47 pm |
After reading all the posts it all boils down to two issues: 1) Your prerogative to wear whatever you want to wear. 2) The reaction that you will get from others to what you are wearing. If anything you do or wear "could" cause a brother or sister to stumble then you better think long and hard about doing it. If you go ahead and do or wear something just because it's your prerogative without consideration for those around you, that is just SELFish! The last thing you should be is a "stumbling block". Is it more important to "look" a certain way or to keep someone from falling? As Christian's we are called to a higher standard then the world. We are in the world but not of it. I believe this goes for men as well as women. 1 John 2:15 "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man[or woman] love the world, the love of the Father is not in him [or her]".
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7/6/2009 1:42 am |
jesus4me66 . . . You still haven't told me the difference between a pair of panties and a bikini. A bikini is not a thong but can be hip hugger or briefs, which is what I have in mind because according to the person who first fashioned the bikini in 1946, it was fashioned as a brief not a thong. I know the "private parts" mention were your words. You still haven't told me the Scripture in the "OT" you are speaking of. Avoiding the question on this thread I put to you does not strengthen your argument for bikini and I will tell you now that my weakness of flesh is not in the sexuality department. How would you know if a man is lusting for you on the beach? You can't. How can you take the position knowing that God created the woman to be desired of man (not lust), uphold a willingness to wear a bikini and then blame a man (or brother in Christ) for his failure to maintain self control? In your obstinacy and ignorance you would rush head long and a place a stumbling stone upon a brother and cause him to fall. And it is men like "soaringwitheagles" who cheer women with your sentiment to do those things they ought not. These are called "enablers". The Church need look elsewhere for true Christian role models. Soaringwithchris did no more than ask you what you meant when you threw insults. I know your game and have grown weary of playing with you. To Him be the glory.
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7/6/2009 2:08 am |
After reading all the posts it all boils down to two issues: 1) Your prerogative to wear whatever you want to wear. 2) The reaction that you will get from others to what you are wearing. If anything you do or wear "could" cause a brother or sister to stumble then you better think long and hard about doing it. If you go ahead and do or wear something just because it's your prerogative without consideration for those around you, that is just SELFish! The last thing you should be is a "stumbling block". Is it more important to "look" a certain way or to keep someone from falling? As Christian's we are called to a higher standard then the world. We are in the world but not of it. I believe this goes for men as well as women. 1 John 2:15 "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man[or woman] love the world, the love of the Father is not in him [or her]". 1. First of all, I don't think that I'm all that attractive in swimwear. I wear it at the beach because that is the appropriate place to wear it. People do that you know. 2. When I referred to wearing clothing...I said PROFESSIONAL and MODEST. Which is appropriate for my job working with kids. Now exactly what am to wear to work??? A burka???? I don't date and the attention shown is unwanted and people know this. Who wants to be leered at...I certainly don't. The point was that it doesn't matter what women wear if a man's heart is not right. I THINK that ya'll are focused way too much on how to put a bandaid on struggles with the flesh instead of finding Jesus who will prevent from stumbling in the first place. To Him be the glory.
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7/6/2009 2:46 am |
Bloggers here are so predictable. Put up controversial material and watch how everyone gets sooo zealous to prove a point. Then the vultures fly in to watch a fight. If you guys could take just half of that energy and put it into Jesus it would be so awesome to watch. Look at what your focus is on....is it Him or about fighting a bunch of religious battles and rules that has absolutely nothing to do with what Jesus taught. PEOPLE, we only have a short time in life to get it right, PLEASE remember who the focus should remain on and SEEK Him with all your heart. Stop wasting energy that is better used serving Him. To Him be the glory.
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7/6/2009 1:25 pm |
I've shut this blog down, I CAN'T continue this. If you feel it necessary to comment....please make your own blog on the subject. I apologize if I offended in getting carried away with my convictions. To Him be the glory.
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7/7/2009 8:12 pm |
666? Is that your prefix? Throw me a dime and the rest of your telephone number and maybe I'll hit you back, kewpie-doll! Dang it all, where'd you go? Gave up that easily?To Him be the glory.
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7/8/2009 7:02 am |
If yer at the beach and someone there isn't dressed "for being at the beach" has a problem with YOU being in yer Bikini and tells ya so- TAKE IT OFF so yer bikini doesn't cause them to stumble anymore. Easy to fix- and hey- ya won't have tan lines to worry about later either. Maybe THAT is the lesson here- COMPLETELY "remove" the TEMPTATION to "judge" ya and give them ONLY what God created- maybe them judges will "repent" right on the spot and tell ya to put the bikini back on. "Think outside the box". The point of the BLOG was "do I do it anyway and repent later if I feel the need to repent"- SIN OF ANY SORT could be used in the EXAMPLE and the question would be the same. I can't BELIEVE people can't GET IT. Addendum to "losing my faith"...
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7/8/2009 8:19 am |
There are no ugly women in the world, only those who do not know how to look pretty. God made woman beautiful and to be desired of men. Shield your temple of false idol worshipers of that beauty and only allow one servant into your holy of holies. The moral behaviors of a nation are determined by the women of that nation. When women go wrong the men go right after them. Respect these natural principles and have the joy of the Lord and an undefiled conscience. wear shorts over your proclivities. When you respect yourself... so will the men. Totally Stupid. Utterly RIDICULOUS. PROFANITY IN DISGUISE. Yer not only full of CRAP yer trying to blame WOMEN for making men "sin". Sounds a lot like this guy is terminally stuck in reverse. Addendum to "losing my faith"...
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7/8/2009 8:30 am |
Hi, again, jesus4me66! The first half of my reply to you dealt with the bikini and the last half, I thought, dealt with your question. I'll try again! LOL Here's your questions: "Hypothetical question: IF “thou shalt not wear a bikini” was God’s law and I decided to just forgo that one and do it anyway since I was covered by the blood then what are the rules? If we are saved and covered by the blood of Christ, then the rules and the desire to follow those rules are found within the heart. If we decide to break one of those rules just because we know that the blood of Christ has our sins covered, then we have a problem area in the heart. Do I ask for forgiveness before I do it and repent afterward? When the blood of Christ covers us, then we are already forgiven of that sin even before we commit it. What we should be asking for, though, is for Him to strengthen us to overcome that desire to be disobedient, to cleanse us of that desire, to give us a more intimate love for Him, and to give us a greater willingness to be obedient. "Repent afterward?" Repent means to change one's mind, one's way of thinking, and to change one's actions accordingly. If we are under the mindset that we are deliberately going to sin just because we are already forgiven of it, then, yes, we need to repent of that mindset. Or just save it all until after the sin is committed? The attitude "I'll sin and then repent and ask for forgiveness" is not what grace, forgiveness, and eternally secure salvation is all about. Do I pretend or tell God that I’m incapable of NOT committing that sin? There's no pretending about it. On our own, we ARE incapable of NOT committing sin. We can tell God that if we want to, but He already knows it. His Spirit in us is what strengthens us to overcome temptation. How much we are strengthened depends upon how much we let Him strengthen us. If we choose to give in to the temptation, that in itself, exposes a problem area in our heart, an area in which we need to let the Lord change us. To answer a question you asked me earlier: "if we are God's own would He let us fall down in the first place?" Yes, He will. Here is one example out of many in the Bible. Jesus told Peter in Luke 22:31-32 "And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren." Peter was God's own. The Lord allowed satan to sift Peter, even while knowing that Peter would fall in the temptation. God allowed Peter to fall. An interesting thing, though, is that even though Peter's actions failed, his faith did not. And even though Peter sinned, the Lord kept him as His own. And it's by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross that we are made righteous and kept secure by Him. Re-read this one. "God already knows we are INCAPABLE OF NOT SAYING NO TO SIN" is the entire gist of this one. REALLY? WE CAN NOT KNOW WHAT SIN IS AND JUST SAY NO? But let's DEFINE SIN THE WAY GOD DEFINED IT FOR US. Has nothing to do with the need for repentance IF WE OBEY HIM. A bikini isn't a sin. Nor is wearing one. THE SIN IS IN WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT. To use all manner of "examples" of other's "sin" here is to miss the entire point. IF THE CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE IS TRUTH- THERE ARE NO LAWS OR RULES IN THE FIRST PLACE. Yet PAUL LOADED CHRISTIANS DOWN WITH TONS OF RULES AND LAWS. I'm frikkin AMAZED that IF THE LAW OF GRACE AND OF LIBERTY APPLIES- WHERE DID ALL OF THESE LAWS COME FROM THAT CHRISTIANS BEAT EACH OTHER OVER THE HEAD WITH? Addendum to "losing my faith"...
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7/8/2009 11:27 am |
Re-read this one. "God already knows we are INCAPABLE OF NOT SAYING NO TO SIN" is the entire gist of this one. REALLY? WE CAN NOT KNOW WHAT SIN IS AND JUST SAY NO? But let's DEFINE SIN THE WAY GOD DEFINED IT FOR US. Has nothing to do with the need for repentance IF WE OBEY HIM. A bikini isn't a sin. Nor is wearing one. THE SIN IS IN WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT. To use all manner of "examples" of other's "sin" here is to miss the entire point. IF THE CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE IS TRUTH- THERE ARE NO LAWS OR RULES IN THE FIRST PLACE. Yet PAUL LOADED CHRISTIANS DOWN WITH TONS OF RULES AND LAWS. I'm frikkin AMAZED that IF THE LAW OF GRACE AND OF LIBERTY APPLIES- WHERE DID ALL OF THESE LAWS COME FROM THAT CHRISTIANS BEAT EACH OTHER OVER THE HEAD WITH?  Does anyone realize how illogical that sounds?To Him be the glory.
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7/8/2009 11:50 am |
Totally Stupid. Utterly RIDICULOUS. PROFANITY IN DISGUISE. Yer not only full of CRAP yer trying to blame WOMEN for making men "sin". Sounds a lot like this guy is terminally stuck in reverse. I've got a huge headache today, doesn't happen very often. Can you massage my head and help make it go away? Or will that encourage you to sin even though I'm in pain and my intentions are to have relief.  To Him be the glory.
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7/8/2009 7:11 pm |
"Ummmm well...... ah.... golly gee.... do yas REALLY wanna know??? Okey dokie then. So I sit down next to you on your couch- as you rub your temples, sides and back of your neck, even a bit around your eyes, And I know you weren't just saying "headache"- but HEADACHE. One way to cancel a date I suppose. So it dawns on me that even guys with 5 thumbs on each hand can lend those thumbs to a righteous cause. I softly suggest that you turn away- and then lean back so that your back can reposition, and your neck muscles can begin to relax a bit as I move your hair aside and let you do the relaxing, while I do the magic thumbs trick where your hands used to be. Gentle pressure, slow circles at the temples and I close my eyes simply to join with you in a state of relaxation and a peaceful moment or 2. I wonder if "music" actually does "soothe the savage beast" so I begin to hum a gentle tune from a place inside I didn't know even had such a memory of soft, melodic and tension altering warmth. I won't know it until later, but it only took me 3 minutes to fall fast asleep- neglecting your temples, your neck and your shoulders- lost in a reverie so rich that even you pinching me and punching me couldn't revive me at first. So yeah- I should never have closed my eyes while trying to help you relax and relieve that HEADACHE- cuz dudette- what you done is GUNNA LEAVE A BRUISE FER SHURE. By the way- yeah- it was a sin to fall asleep on yer couch------ so yeah- ya shoulda just took 2 small white pills and showed me the door. That way I'd never have dreamed we were square dancin and doe see doe'd ya offa the couch to begin with. IT'S ALL YER FAULT!!!!! Oh- and if ya STILL got that headache- wanna start over if I promise to keep m'eyes open this time? Hugglez and hope it's gone by now.   Addendum to "losing my faith"...
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7/8/2009 7:47 pm |
Totally Stupid. Utterly RIDICULOUS. PROFANITY IN DISGUISE. Yer not only full of CRAP yer trying to blame WOMEN for making men "sin". Sounds a lot like this guy is terminally stuck in reverse. To Him be the glory.
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7/8/2009 8:29 pm |
"Ummmm well...... ah.... golly gee.... do yas REALLY wanna know??? Okey dokie then. So I sit down next to you on your couch- as you rub your temples, sides and back of your neck, even a bit around your eyes, And I know you weren't just saying "headache"- but HEADACHE. One way to cancel a date I suppose. So it dawns on me that even guys with 5 thumbs on each hand can lend those thumbs to a righteous cause. I softly suggest that you turn away- and then lean back so that your back can reposition, and your neck muscles can begin to relax a bit as I move your hair aside and let you do the relaxing, while I do the magic thumbs trick where your hands used to be. Gentle pressure, slow circles at the temples and I close my eyes simply to join with you in a state of relaxation and a peaceful moment or 2. I wonder if "music" actually does "soothe the savage beast" so I begin to hum a gentle tune from a place inside I didn't know even had such a memory of soft, melodic and tension altering warmth. I won't know it until later, but it only took me 3 minutes to fall fast asleep- neglecting your temples, your neck and your shoulders- lost in a reverie so rich that even you pinching me and punching me couldn't revive me at first. So yeah- I should never have closed my eyes while trying to help you relax and relieve that HEADACHE- cuz dudette- what you done is GUNNA LEAVE A BRUISE FER SHURE. By the way- yeah- it was a sin to fall asleep on yer couch------ so yeah- ya shoulda just took 2 small white pills and showed me the door. That way I'd never have dreamed we were square dancin and doe see doe'd ya offa the couch to begin with. IT'S ALL YER FAULT!!!!! Oh- and if ya STILL got that headache- wanna start over if I promise to keep m'eyes open this time? Hugglez and hope it's gone by now.  Do you need some ice for your eye honey? Didn't mean to hit you so hard there but my neck and shoulders were in need of some SERIOUS massaging. I'm thinking you need a little practice at staying awake while working your magic soooo...hows bout we start all over again. Oh, and make sure you hum that sweet melody softly next to my ear. *shivers* Practice makes perfect you know. To Him be the glory.
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