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Neither Jew, Nor Greek
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There is no more so-called PROMISED LAND except for Israeli Christians of the future and Gentile Christians. We are all one in Christ if we believe. For those of you who think blessing so-called Israel is for today, you better treat your own brothers and sisters fairly. Because the Israel you think that is Israel is not Israel according the bible. ------------------------------------------------------- The Church is the legacy of Israel, but not Israel itself. The 144,000 seems to have already resurrection in the time of Christ so whoever gets saved would not be part of the 144,000 because so-called Jews are mixed with other races. They don't go by tribes anymore or even in Gentile times they won't go by tribes, except the pre-existing 144,000 from the pre new testament times. |
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7/13/2009 11:11 am |
thetobeornot... I disagree with this one statement that stood out among the rest... YOU SAID: "Because the Israel you think that is Israel is not Israel according the bible." RESPONSE: Genesis 15:18-21..."In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: 19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, 20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, 21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites." Have you seen a map with these boundaries marked off? That's a lot of land. Who exactly are Abraham's seed? Isaac, Jacob... Reuben Simeon Levi Judah Dan Naphtali Gad Asher Issachar Zebulun Joseph Benjamin Ephraim Manasseh When Jesus walked the earth ALL twelve tribes were present... Peter said... Acts 2:14..."But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea... [southern kingdom - two tribes]" and... Acts 2:22..."Ye men of Israel... [northern kingdom - ten tribes]" That's a total of twelve tribes. Are you telling me that there are NO TRIBES descendants at all in Israel today that we can rightly call Israel (Jacob)?? I respectfully disagree. Salvation is of the LORD
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7/13/2009 12:19 pm |
Frankly, have had QUITE enough with Religion and Copy and Paste Christians! Have a nice day, Mark! 1 oh 5 seven dottie comma? WMHX, Hershey, Pa.  David Lee? Van Halen? "Want some, World?" Every body wants some! Lost in a jetstream? Christians are like Timex watches. We take a lickin', but We keep on tickin'! Steve
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7/13/2009 6:21 pm |
thetobeornot... I disagree with this one statement that stood out among the rest... YOU SAID: "Because the Israel you think that is Israel is not Israel according the bible." RESPONSE: Genesis 15:18-21..."In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: 19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, 20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, 21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites." Have you seen a map with these boundaries marked off? That's a lot of land. Who exactly are Abraham's seed? Isaac, Jacob... Reuben Simeon Levi Judah Dan Naphtali Gad Asher Issachar Zebulun Joseph Benjamin Ephraim Manasseh When Jesus walked the earth ALL twelve tribes were present... Peter said... Acts 2:14..."But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea... [southern kingdom - two tribes]" and... Acts 2:22..."Ye men of Israel... [northern kingdom - ten tribes]" That's a total of twelve tribes. Are you telling me that there are NO TRIBES descendants at all in Israel today that we can rightly call Israel (Jacob)?? I respectfully disagree. Read Galatians. There it reads that is not to seeds as of many, but to 'thy seed' which is Christ. Seeds plural would mean through generations but that is not the intended meaning. Paul says that himself that the SEED is referring to Christ along, and ofcourse those before him. The prophecies do say that David will say to Christ, "my Lord". How is that since Christ is the son of David. Clearly then SEED is referring down to Christ and not after when referring to race. ------------------------------------- Unless the Jews believe with their hearts that God raised Jesus from the dead, they have no salvation.
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7/14/2009 7:10 am |
-------------------------------- Read Galatians. There it reads that is not to seeds as of many, but to 'thy seed' which is Christ. Seeds plural would mean through generations but that is not the intended meaning. Paul says that himself that the SEED is referring to Christ along, and ofcourse those before him. The prophecies do say that David will say to Christ, "my Lord". How is that since Christ is the son of David. Clearly then SEED is referring down to Christ and not after when referring to race. ------------------------------------- Unless the Jews believe with their hearts that God raised Jesus from the dead, they have no salvation. Matthew 1:1-17..."The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. 2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren... (vs. 17)...So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations." It was through Abraham that the "Jewish" race began. It was through Moses that they became a nation with laws and other social and religious observations. YOU SAID: "Unless the Jews believe with their hearts that God raised Jesus from the dead, they have no salvation." RESPONSE: No man can come to God unless elected by God to do so (salvation). Psalm65:4..."Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple." Salvation is of the Lord (Jonah 2:9). John 15:16..."Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain..." Election...and perseverance of His saints. I am sorry, but I am not Arminian. Salvation is of the LORD
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7/14/2009 5:34 pm |
If you are not Arminian, then repentance is a work. Jesus preached repentance for some reason. Obviously we have to choose, except God knows who would be chosen. Many are called.
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7/14/2009 8:52 pm |
If you are not Arminian, then repentance is a work. Jesus preached repentance for some reason. Obviously we have to choose, except God knows who would be chosen. Many are called. Acts 11:18 . . ."When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life." As I quoted in Jonah 2:9, Salvation is of the Lord! If salvation is of the Lord, then everything going to that salvation IS from the Lord . . . even repentance. Salvation is of the LORD
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