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6/28/2008 6:08 am |
Pen, pray through your house often, right through every room and hall. I pray against the enemy by saying I am a child of the King, covered by the blood of the lamb, no weapon formed against me shall prosper!! I pray over my children in tongues whilst they sleep...the enemy cannot get a foothold if you do this... this keeps the enemy out...oh I also tell him to go get lost!!! lol!! Pray for God's light to shine in your home Pen and all around you, keeping you safe and secure. The enemy looks for negativity to find a way in, keep positive, reading His word, listening to worship music and also make sure you get enough rest and eat properly. A lot of these are just practical things but they keep you healthy and therefore strong. God bless xxxx
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6/28/2008 6:08 am |
Penelope, please do not take this in the wrong light. I am not going to agree with you here, and I have my reasons. We as christians put way too much into experiences versus what God's word says. Yeah there is reasons that we are told to renew our minds daily. To abide in him. Satan, to the Christian is bound up at the cross. Yes he runs rampant in the world. You mix the relationship the Jewish Nation had with God by quoting 2nd Chronichles. Gentiles are not included in that and those people did not have the Holy Spirit residing in them as you do. Satan goes around as a roaring lion. A roaring lion can not hurt you. But we can embrace fear if we wish to and let that spread through our thinking, Then our thinking can play games with us. But that is us being stupid. One of the toughest issues is for us to come to a place that we actually realize how much God loves us. That was very true for me and I did not want to address it and I had many struggles and reactions to my fears that were similar to what you speak of. Many experiences that I could say at the time were supernatural, but now I look at differently. I allowed God to show me that he did love me unconditionally. I came to a point then that I refuse to indulge in panic. I know he loves me and I know he meets all of my needs according to his riches in Glory. I also think we get this teaching in our heads and somehow we think we are more important than we are. We are in this battlefield. Yes we are, but the word says the battle is the Lords. If you look at the Armor of God, it is simply Jesus Christ. Everything about it is who Jesus is. All Peter is saying is be aware. Why? The early church had gentiles that were former gnostics which did not recognize sin, and the other half were Jews which also did not recognize many things. Just like here in America, the constitution is to be taken as the writers inteded and not a living organism changed by the wind. The Word of God needs to be looked at as to who it was written to and why. Otherwise it gets really strange! Blessings to You
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6/28/2008 6:10 am |
PS...please seek help with regards to your tongue Pen, this may be the negative thing that is making you feel so down, once you have dealt with it you will feel a lot better xxxx
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 6/28/2008 7:27 am |
I don't think you're looney Penelope - been there - done that - I'm 'living' proof the devil is a liar and the father of all lies - you are too. I have come to the conclusion that we are victors not victims - we are conquering victorious overcomers - not in our strength - but through His blood and in His strength - yes, resist him and he must flee - he can't stand the Name of Jesus!! I'm glad you are better and victorious!! Blessings!!  How can we NOT praise Him - Marilyn
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6/28/2008 7:39 am |
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. When we start reading the winds and breezes of false doctrine and beliefs, we may begin to believe them, if we read them often enough, for they are planting seeds of doubt. Some have been planting seeds of doubt for over 2 years now, identify them and ignore them. Love them and pray for them earnestly from a very safe distance. Where you are, should be safe enough? Know? Yes? ? . . Continue to be faithful, deliverance is near, obedience must be seen, be an unconditional blessing as He continues to bless you. This time is short, serve Him well, serving all. Without exception. Know? Yes? ? . Meow ? .
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6/28/2008 8:22 am |
Izzy... can you name one place in the scriptures after Christianity began; which is after Jesus gives atonement on the cross where born again believers went into a believers house and did what you are telling her to do? I will be interested to see that. I am not trying to be devisive, but in truth, things changed at that cross that you no longer find going on because of what Jesus did. You are right, illness can affect us emotionally and in our thinking process.
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6/28/2008 8:31 am |
Pen, i would say you are going through that because you are a Warrior woman, you have the victory as Marilyn has pointed out, you will over come Gods way is my way,...Clay
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6/28/2008 8:33 am |
Clay.....dont you think its real truth that sets a person free instead of "opinions"?
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6/28/2008 8:43 am |
Izzy... can you name one place in the scriptures after Christianity began; which is after Jesus gives atonement on the cross where born again believers went into a believers house and did what you are telling her to do? I will be interested to see that. I am not trying to be devisive, but in truth, things changed at that cross that you no longer find going on because of what Jesus did. You are right, illness can affect us emotionally and in our thinking process. Where does it say I should not do as I have suggested? To speak truths and positives can only be helpful, the enemy has no hold over us, but when we are down it doesn't always feel that way. I believe in dealing with it, praying over the situation and speaking out truths, we are daughters and sons of the King, no weapon formed against us shall prosper and we are covered by the blood of the lamb. Where is that not biblical? Also, please don't make this a contensious thread, let us speak positive truths to pen, pray for her and support her.
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6/28/2008 9:15 am |
Sis I dont wont hear them negative again ok,can take this anymore,we haven't got chance meet in person.I will be praying for u and know u are strong woman keep faith in God.I love u sis.peace
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 6/28/2008 9:37 am |
Glad you're feeling better dear girl. Get your health in order, have a thorough check up of EVERYTHING including that tongue. We are responsible to be stewards of ALL God gives us, including our health sweetie . . . life is hard enough to deal with when we're healthy! When we're not, we leave many doors open for our peace to be disrupted. So, please just get a thorough physical including the tongue . . . have everything checked - mental, emotional, physical. It's not a denial of what God is or isn't doing in your life - it's simply prudent to be sure you're doing your part  Love ya bunches.Susan aka Red God gives the very best to those who leave the choices to Him. Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine...to Him be the glory. Eph 3:20 The parable of a man and his car The Cottage
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6/28/2008 10:15 am |
1 John 4:4 - Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world. Pen, keep fightng the good fight, with the Lord Jesus as your Commander! In Jesus, Karen Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness!
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6/28/2008 10:16 am |
yes, how awesome that the LORD puts us on others hearts when we are struggling! there are some key things in what Dennis is saying up there...keep your eyes on Jesus and don't look at the waves as you step out of the boat! "taking every thought captive" "covered by the blood of the Lamb" "NO fear in LOVE for PERFECT LOVE casts out fear." the more i come to trust and believe in His Perfect Love for me...and look to him in the midst of fears...the less i fear. the places where i fear, i know that i don't yet understand and see his Perfect Love...so rather than focus on the fear...or even give the enemy any credit for it...I am learning to as the LORD to show me what this fear is revealing to me about where I don't see Him and His Perfect Love rightly. (I John 4:1  "For He has not given us a spirit of fear, but of love and of power and of a sound mind." 2 Timothy 1  ALL CHILDREN NEED A LAPTOP....
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6/28/2008 10:17 am |
hmmmmmmm... I John 4: 18 and II Timothy 1 : 7  ALL CHILDREN NEED A LAPTOP....
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6/28/2008 12:16 pm |
Amen Anelah Amen. We can shout all we want to and we can say a ton of things, but what is important is Jesus. Knowing who he is in our lives is what is real. Chasing a defeated for and worrying about him solves NOTHING. Greater is he that resides in you than anything that could even think of over coming you. There is a lot of ignorant voo-doo christianity that is not supported scripturally.
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6/28/2008 12:50 pm |
Hi Pen... God is definitely greater than any of our fears or enemies, satan included. Sometimes it is difficult to ascertain the source of our feelings. But I do think it is no struggle at all when we take the authority over the enemy that has been given to us....satan is an ant compared to God. I do not think that we need to walk in fear or despair. I think satan is against what God is doing but he is impotent in his struggles against us as long as we are submitted to God and walking in truth. "Greater is He that is in us than He that is in the world". I am glad that your son was there for you, to comfort and pray for you...we are God's hands and feet, putting His love and compassion into action here on earth. I do not have all the answers for you and I don't think that is why you opened up to us here. I do hear you, and as such will pray for you. Get quiet with God when you are feeling better and ask Him to show you the source of what when on that day. He always has your best interest at heart and will show you all that you need to know. I agree with the others, though, that you do need to take care of your physical well being...get that tongue checked out (fear of the unknown is keeping you from doing that...get it done, out of the way, then it will not keep burdening you). I also recommend getting a TSH level checked (thyroid stimulating hormone)...underactive thyroids are extremely common in women and can manifest themselves in many ways including depression. I have been on thyroid medication myself for more than 20 years...mine was discovered when I went through a very short bout of unexplained depression, which was/is so out of character for me. I had no reason to feel the way I was feeling and I knew something was not write...a friend of mine at church had just finished his psychiatry residency and suggested I have that checked out...lo and behold...it was my thyroid. Once I got that corrected there was no more depression or fatigue. Anyway as a medical practitioner I screen for that regularly; it is quite common so would suggest you have it checked. Thanks so much for sharing your heart with us; that took amazing courage; it is always emotionally risky for us to open up that way, isn't it? But we all care for you...and are looking for our funny, witty, perky Pen's return. Keeping you in thought and prayer, Deena He is no fool if he should choose to lose the things he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose.....Jim Elliott Deena 
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6/28/2008 12:56 pm |
Hi Pen... God is definitely greater than any of our fears or enemies, satan included. Sometimes it is difficult to ascertain the source of our feelings. But I do think it is no struggle at all when we take the authority over the enemy that has been given to us....satan is an ant compared to God. I do not think that we need to walk in fear or despair. I think satan is against what God is doing but he is impotent in his struggles against us as long as we are submitted to God and walking in truth. "Greater is He that is in us than He that is in the world". I am glad that your son was there for you, to comfort and pray for you...we are God's hands and feet, putting His love and compassion into action here on earth. I do not have all the answers for you and I don't think that is why you opened up to us here. I do hear you, and as such will pray for you. Get quiet with God when you are feeling better and ask Him to show you the source of what when on that day. He always has your best interest at heart and will show you all that you need to know. I agree with the others, though, that you do need to take care of your physical well being...get that tongue checked out (fear of the unknown is keeping you from doing that...get it done, out of the way, then it will not keep burdening you). I also recommend getting a TSH level checked (thyroid stimulating hormone)...underactive thyroids are extremely common in women and can manifest themselves in many ways including depression. I have been on thyroid medication myself for more than 20 years...mine was discovered when I went through a very short bout of unexplained depression, which was/is so out of character for me. I had no reason to feel the way I was feeling and I knew something was not write...a friend of mine at church had just finished his psychiatry residency and suggested I have that checked out...lo and behold...it was my thyroid. Once I got that corrected there was no more depression or fatigue. Anyway as a medical practitioner I screen for that regularly; it is quite common so would suggest you have it checked. Thanks so much for sharing your heart with us; that took amazing courage; it is always emotionally risky for us to open up that way, isn't it? But we all care for you...and are looking for our funny, witty, perky Pen's return. Keeping you in thought and prayer, Deena He is no fool if he should choose to lose the things he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose.....Jim Elliott Deena
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6/28/2008 1:49 pm |
Pen dear, the scripture karen said is the one on my mind too, Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world. Keep repeating it over n over and you will have the victory....hot n cold, tossing n turning...sounds like having a pause off men to me  Luv is patient, kind, unselfish, hopes 4 the best...
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6/28/2008 2:07 pm |
praying for you here, Pen Susan because I have a Shepherd, I know love and goodness
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6/28/2008 2:59 pm |
Oh Pen, Blimey.What an awful time you`ve been havin.Sorry i`ve not been on here for a little while otherwise i would have commented sooner.My Dear,Dear Sister You are an incredible Woman Of GOD.The way you knew that JESUS was there with you cradled in His arms is sooooo awsome.He`s NEVER gonna let you go.Don`t forget that.What a strong woman with faith you are to get through that attack.I more than admire you. Yours in CHRIST, Wendy   Show me the way Sweet JESUS.Lead and i Will follow.
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6/28/2008 3:32 pm |
Glad you're feeling better dear girl. Get your health in order, have a thorough check up of EVERYTHING including that tongue. We are responsible to be stewards of ALL God gives us, including our health sweetie . . . life is hard enough to deal with when we're healthy! When we're not, we leave many doors open for our peace to be disrupted. So, please just get a thorough physical including the tongue . . . have everything checked - mental, emotional, physical. It's not a denial of what God is or isn't doing in your life - it's simply prudent to be sure you're doing your part Love ya bunches. What is so awesome here, though, is how your son prayed with you. How blessed you are! "Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness..." Matt 6:33.
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6/28/2008 7:33 pm |
s_warriorthingy replies on 6/28/2008 8:49 pm: I read those verses, Hellen.....thank you! I guess maybe you think I have a spirit of fear? I guess we all have fear of something to a degree, but I also have confidence in God, whose perfect love does cast out fear. When I am weak, then He is strong...this is what He keeps reminding me over and over. Praise God! Oh wow, Nope, not at all...I don't think that that scripture means a 'spirit' in a casting out sort of way...elstwise, it would mean from the latter part of the verse that the LORD gives us spirits as well. My focus was the second part...to focus on when fear comes. That verse was given to me when I was breaking lots of strongholds...and I claimed that whenever fear would come...and when the enemy would try to lie to me...I'd tell him, NOPE, cuz God has given me a spirit of love, power and sound mind. ALL CHILDREN NEED A LAPTOP....
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6/28/2008 10:30 pm |
You already know how I feel about what you have been through dear friend. Anything more that I could say would simply be redundant to all the good things that these friends here who love you dearly have said already. You know that you are on my heart and prayers. Let your gentleness be evident to all. Philippians 4:5
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6/29/2008 5:48 am |
Pen, when I got done with my first comp on Wednesday. I was attacked big time. I almost gave up studying for the second comp. The first exam was so much harder than any others we had studied and way harder than the comp I failed last summer. I thought there was no way for me to pass, if 2 months of intense studying wasn't enough for that first exam. ONLY by God's grace, I didn't give in or give up! [that was the lie of the devil that was trying his best to keep me from succeeding in God's call for me!]... Looking back, I can see that. But as I was going through it, all I could do was cry and pray and keep putting forth every possible effort that was left in my power... which wasn't much. I would like to tell you a little story.... Way back when I was 30 years old, I started to face depression and a mutual codependent relationship on/with my mother. At first, Christians made me think something was wrong with me and with my faith, because I didn't have the faith to pray it away!!! Oh how I beat myself up over it. Finally, when I almost drove off the freeway at 75 mph, I decided it was time to get help. Suddenly, the 2 1/2 decades of grief I had denied crashed into my life violently. My family was horrified and disgusted with my outbursts of tears that would last for hours at a time. Through the pain and not understanding and doubt and yes, fear, I held onto my faith in God. Back then, it wasn't a strong faith, but it was the only thread of hope that I had... so I held on for dear life. Those people who ridiculed me and made me feel wrong for my feelings and experiences later came back to tell me that they finally understood what I had gone through. Unfortunately, they understood because they had begun to go through the same thing. [Maybe, if they had had compassion instead of judgement in their hearts, they would not have gone through it. And honestly, I wish they hadn't had to feel such shaking pain in their lives!] Anyways, my main point with this story is this: I feel like the devil meant to kill me through those years of pain and fear and self-doubt. However, our wonderful and glorious God used those years of tragic pain to draw me closer into Himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   I totally don't regret those years or that pain. I love where I am with God! My walk with Him is stronger than I ever thought could be possible! Did I question Him after that first test on Wednesday? You bet I did. But I didn't question from the place of doubt. I questioned from the place of not understanding what or why. Did it shake my faith? A little. But, it also made me hang on tighter to Him... because all of my own strength was gone!!!!!!!! His was the only strength left for me to rely on.Those earth shaking moments like you experienced draw us ever closer. They strengthen our faith and resolve and our compassion for others who have similar experiences. You know those sound like fruit to me!!! And fruit requires pruning. Pruning doesn't just come because we did something wrong or because we neglected to do something right. Sometimes, pruning comes because there is something ahead that we need to be prepared for!!!!!! And sometimes these attacks come because our enemy the devil is trying to keep us from something. Either trying to keep us from receiving a blessing or keep us from touching I life that absolutely needs us. Pen, your experience was real and valid. It also had a purpose. I know for me, it made me stop and think!!!!!!! You mentioned that there were people using our blogs to pray against us... I TOTALLY never even thought in that direction. This blog made me stop so I could be more sober and vigilent. So I thank you from the bottom of my heart. My heart and my goal in this comment is to validate your experience. And to let you know that I feel like you faced it with wisdom and courage!!! Also, know that I am praying for you.... And I am praying for you to see the doctor for your tongue. God bless you my sister!
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6/29/2008 5:54 am |
Hey Pen, a question..... When is the 30th day? Is it possible that this attack was to keep you from whatever God has in store for that day?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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