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My Public Apology to Lisa
Tropical_Man
5/4/2008 4:53 am
People who know me know that I am strong willed and i also stick to my guns. You will not find me apologizing for much. One of the reasons is that I believe truth matters above all things whether it be friendships or whatever.

I want to apologize to Lisa and other Catholics that think I come off as arrogant and insensitive towards their belief system.

Much of what I have posted has been material that I am in complete agreement with. It is not placed out there to hurt anyone, but to educate them. That is the only way a person can be free from things that are not true.

As a believer, I have had to look at things that were in the very root of my belief system and decide if they had any credence at all. Over the years many things have been implemented into Christianity; doctrine-wise that do not hold water when closely scrutinized.

That is why, we must, as Christians use the word of God as our guide. That alone is the inspired word of God.

I have taken articles showing that what is taught in the Catholic religion is in huge contrast to what the Bible itself says. Yes they are long, but truth is found in them.

Lisa I will not intrude on your blogs anymore. I never meant to hurt your freelings. I personally wish that the truth would inspire you to ask questions. It did me about 7 years ago and the truth was painful at first, but very liberating as time went on. Things that did not make sense, now do. All because I took the time to want to look some things up. What I found was earth shaking for me...then a Charismatic Assembly of God believer for 30 years.

The more I found out about their teachings, the more my life was remade. Here is one example. They, in the church's writing believe that a person must speak in tongues in order to be saved. Where they came up with that, I have no idea.

Lisa that is one of the reasons that I put up the blog on the last 1600 years of the catholic Church and how it eveolved. The things they added, the things people said.

There is importance in truth. Life is all about Jesus. He is the all in all. You know, the Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity, part of God. Yet the Holy Spirit never points to himself. He only points to Jesus Christ.

Why would anyone place such an emphasis on Mary, if God himself only points towards Jesus? Think on that. Think on why it took 1200 years to implement "confession" as a need. There are many things like that that do not add up.

So is it mean to point out that things do not line up? My faith is found in the scriptures which were God inspired.

Catholics were not the only ones canonizing the scriptures. The Protestants were doing the same thing.

Anyway, I am sorry, not for what I said; but that you are offended. But think on this, the Gospel always has offended people and always will.
crucified777
809 posts 

5/4/2008 7:52 am

i use to be a catholic believer mainly because of my family
then GOD revealed to me certain truths that made me realize
certai things.dennis i mean it when i say i love you in JESUS name.
but really.... do you remember when GOD drew you? it was with lovingkindness,gentleness meekness..the way you present certain things lack that ...WE need to ask the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD how to draw certain people..cause what it takes for some may not take for others.
honestly if someone was to approach you(and you was of another belief),the way you approach people now,would you be the least bit interested in what they had to say about their GOD JESUS?
just something to think about......blessings to you

Beth747

5/4/2008 8:46 am

    Quoting crucified777:
    i use to be a catholic believer mainly because of my family
    then GOD revealed to me certain truths that made me realize
    certai things.dennis i mean it when i say i love you in JESUS name.
    but really.... do you remember when GOD drew you? it was with lovingkindness,gentleness meekness..the way you present certain things lack that ...WE need to ask the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD how to draw certain people..cause what it takes for some may not take for others.
    honestly if someone was to approach you(and you was of another belief),the way you approach people now,would you be the least bit interested in what they had to say about their GOD JESUS?
    just something to think about......blessings to you
I agree with Crucified777. I love you in the Lord, but I am disappointed in your approach, your prideful spirit. Your spirit strives with mine. It should not be that way.

Thank you for posting an apology to Lisa. She has a sweet spirit and wouldn't do to you what you did to her. Sometimes we can make Christ a reproach to others. Be gentle, dear Dennis, be gentle and wise.

Peace,Beth

In all thy ways ackowledge Him and He shall direct thy paths. Prov 3:6

momto3beagles
4334 posts

5/4/2008 8:47 am

Good post, Dennis. Happy Sunday Sabbath to you.

[post 133245]
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ReadingandRoses
5292 posts

5/4/2008 8:54 am

Uhhhh . . . I don't think it counts as an apology when you are "apologizing" for the way SHE feels. Sorry man, but that's just the truth. Better to say "here's a public EXPLANATION". Apology implies recognition of wrong doing and a desire to make amends.

a·pol·o·gy [uh-pol-uh-jee]
1. a written or spoken expression of one's regret, remorse, or sorrow for having insulted, failed, injured, or wronged another.


Susan aka Red

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Sophie1101
2075 posts

5/4/2008 9:22 am

    Quoting ReadingandRoses:
    Uhhhh . . . I don't think it counts as an apology when you are "apologizing" for the way SHE feels. Sorry man, but that's just the truth. Better to say "here's a public EXPLANATION". Apology implies recognition of wrong doing and a desire to make amends.

    a·pol·o·gy [uh-pol-uh-jee]
    1. a written or spoken expression of one's regret, remorse, or sorrow for having insulted, failed, injured, or wronged another.

I agree with Red. NOT an apology. Why don't you just leave Lisa alone?

"Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid." John 14: 27

momto3beagles
4334 posts

5/4/2008 10:04 am

Ladies, Dennis is doing the best he can. He is sincere, even if his delivery isn't the same one that we would choose. He believes what he believes very strongly, some people would choose a different way to communicate their thoughts. Just my opinion.

[post 133245]
Save a life, please adopt your next pet from a shelter, pound or rescue.
"Iron Chef Bobby Flay, willing to sacrifice life and limb all in the name of flavour!". Alton Brown
"Well you black out lane-lines one and three, and a four-lane highway becomes a two-lane comfort cruise". Kramer, "The Pothole"
"If life gives you lemons, save the receipt". Stephen Colbert

Sweethoney2007
4937 posts 

5/4/2008 10:22 am

crucified777

Actually, the holy Spirit,rebukes,convicts,corrects,provokes to jealousy, slays the blasphemer at will, causes calamity and disasters to get mans attention, turns the rebellious over to Satan for chastisement,
and a lot of other things to deal with man and not always gentleness and meekness. We must look at the whole bible and be led by God in our witnessing. Some people need a kick in the pants while others only a soft word.


Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."

Sweethoney2007
4937 posts 

5/4/2008 10:24 am

God does not want to leave you alone maybe. Hell is a terrible place to spend eternity. All idolater's will end up there.

Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."

Tropical_Man
4919 posts 

5/4/2008 10:48 am

as I said before, Many of the posts were Copy and Pastes of things that other people wrote that I completely agree with. I also know that there were other people wrote other things as well.

Yes I can apolologize for someone being offended without backtracking from what was posted. What was posted was the truth. This was a one time post.

I could easily come out and say that I am offended and say I am leaving because of some of the things that people post here as well. But I am not going to try and control people like that either. I have no issue with taking things on in the arena of debate.

But I will use the bible, the scriptures there that are within the context they were intended to fuel my reasons.

Tropical_Man
4919 posts 

5/4/2008 10:50 am

and Kim you are precisely right. God's word says that he would rather that a person be drawn or saved to him in love, but there are those that must come in fear.

Cassiusclay
4592 posts 

5/4/2008 10:51 am

I must say i agree with Suan and Sophie on this one, no Christian needs to be "warned"

Gods way is my way,...Clay

NJBeliever
1128 posts 

5/4/2008 11:21 am

I give you a lot of credit for apologizing whether people accept it or not. I do think that we have to be respectful of each other even in disagreement. And I know I have certainly seen a lot of disrespect and been disrespected myself in this forum with no subsequent apology.

It's clear that there is a "oneness" denomination in Christianity now that values "unity" over everything else. And I am not scared or ashamed to say I disagree with it. Doctrine matters and The Word is the final authority over everything. But at the same time we can have a spirit of love, compassion and respect in our debates and discussion.

RaulTheScammer
(Raul )

5/4/2008 11:33 am

    Quoting NJBeliever:
    I give you a lot of credit for apologizing whether people accept it or not. I do think that we have to be respectful of each other even in disagreement. And I know I have certainly seen a lot of disrespect and been disrespected myself in this forum with no subsequent apology.

    It's clear that there is a "oneness" denomination in Christianity now that values "unity" over everything else. And I am not scared or ashamed to say I disagree with it. Doctrine matters and The Word is the final authority over everything. But at the same time we can have a spirit of love, compassion and respect in our debates and discussion.
"It's clear that there is a "oneness" denomination in Christianity now that values "unity" over everything else."

Man I really like this guy; he is always right on the mark!

Dennis, I know you and I know you are only interested in the Truth. The Truth should be all that matters to anyone who is interested in pleasing God and not man.

Murphy13166

5/4/2008 11:57 am

Dude, hope you listen to what I have to say--maybe you can learn something about Lisa and yourself.

You did more than copy and paste. Your actions were devious. Out of control. You conducted yourself to deliberately harm another individual. Tell the truth, Dude, there was no Christian works behind anything you posted. And this apology is pathetic. You still aim to harm Lisa even with an apology. And that's just sick, Dude.

Everyone can see you don't care about Lisa--I do.

Why do you care what religion she is? Did you bother to get to know her at all? If you did you could never find fault in her. Hell even not getting to know her no one can find fault in her.

I don't like what you say further down and you said something similar to it before---

Your words-- "I could easily come out and say that I am offended and say I am leaving because of some of the things that people post here as well. But I am not going to try and control people like that either."

You better not be referring to Lisa here because she'd never threaten to do anything to get her own way. You see Dude, she's not selfish and not a control freak. She's loving and kind. If anyone meets her in real life you'll think she's God's Angel here on earth and not just because of her looks either.

My opinion, if you were serious to apologize you'd have done better.

I'm not trying to be harsh to you, even though it sounds that way, just pointing things out like the truth.

Murphy13166

5/4/2008 12:08 pm

    Quoting NJBeliever:
    I give you a lot of credit for apologizing whether people accept it or not. I do think that we have to be respectful of each other even in disagreement. And I know I have certainly seen a lot of disrespect and been disrespected myself in this forum with no subsequent apology.

    It's clear that there is a "oneness" denomination in Christianity now that values "unity" over everything else. And I am not scared or ashamed to say I disagree with it. Doctrine matters and The Word is the final authority over everything. But at the same time we can have a spirit of love, compassion and respect in our debates and discussion.
Who cares, Dude, you're a man. Take it on the chin. Lisa is a sweet innocent woman who never even went to battle arguing doctrine. Never uttered a word, it's only when she decided to leave, in my eyes that's when she became a target for whatever sick reason.

Murphy13166

5/4/2008 12:10 pm

    Quoting momto3beagles:
    Ladies, Dennis is doing the best he can. He is sincere, even if his delivery isn't the same one that we would choose. He believes what he believes very strongly, some people would choose a different way to communicate their thoughts. Just my opinion.
His beliefs are one thing. His apology another. Doesn't quite cut it.

RaulTheScammer
(Raul )

5/4/2008 12:34 pm

    Quoting Murphy13166:
    His beliefs are one thing. His apology another. Doesn't quite cut it.
Dude, did I miss something? Did he directly attack her or just the Catholic church? The Truth is all that matters. If the Truth hurts, so be it!

Tropical_Man
4919 posts 

5/4/2008 12:44 pm

I am sorry Cassius, but I dont care what you think personally. The truth is what matters. You listen to a lot of messed up people such as Kenneth Copeland.

I do not know how long you have been a Christian,as if that should matter. Paul said that as soon as he would leave that false doctrines would try and muddle everything he had shared. So, in that area, you are completely wrong....pretty much as usual.

Sophie, ignorance really bothers me. Isaid in my blog "Lisa I will not intrude on your blogs anymore" Try reading a little. Comphrehension goes a long way. Instead, you like some others just assume. Try reading. Sorry if I am terse but its like taking everyone by the hand

momto3beagles
4334 posts

5/4/2008 12:48 pm

    Quoting RaulTheScammer:
    Dude, did I miss something? Did he directly attack her or just the Catholic church? The Truth is all that matters. If the Truth hurts, so be it!
What he said!

[post 133245]
Save a life, please adopt your next pet from a shelter, pound or rescue.
"Iron Chef Bobby Flay, willing to sacrifice life and limb all in the name of flavour!". Alton Brown
"Well you black out lane-lines one and three, and a four-lane highway becomes a two-lane comfort cruise". Kramer, "The Pothole"
"If life gives you lemons, save the receipt". Stephen Colbert

Sophie1101
2075 posts

5/4/2008 1:15 pm

    Quoting Tropical_Man:
    I am sorry Cassius, but I dont care what you think personally. The truth is what matters. You listen to a lot of messed up people such as Kenneth Copeland.

    I do not know how long you have been a Christian,as if that should matter. Paul said that as soon as he would leave that false doctrines would try and muddle everything he had shared. So, in that area, you are completely wrong....pretty much as usual.

    Sophie, ignorance really bothers me. Isaid in my blog "Lisa I will not intrude on your blogs anymore" Try reading a little. Comphrehension goes a long way. Instead, you like some others just assume. Try reading. Sorry if I am terse but its like taking everyone by the hand
Dennis, thank you for calling me ignorant. I did read your post and understood it quite well. Just because you don't go on to her blog doesn't mean you are leaving her alone, especially if you continue to put up posts directed at her by name. But I will drop that subject since it is really up to her to say if she is feeling harassed or not.

I really don't care about the contents of your anti-catholic posts and whether they are the truth or not. I haven't been reading them to judge whether they are true or not because I think they are a waste of my time and I already know what I believe and why AND most of all because your attitude and motives irritate me. (I am not catholic by the way, so don't start preaching to ME.)

What I took issue with was not whether you are preaching truth or not, but with your FAKE apology. If you read through your own post, and comprehend it, you will see that you have nowhere apologized for anything you have done. You simply "apologized" for someone else's emotions and justified your own actions. If that's the way you see it, don't bother couching it in an "apology." Just say, "I'm right and if it bothers you tough cookies," since that's pretty much what you said anyway. Try taking a look at walkingman's post [post 118889] about what does not constitute an apology. You'll see your post fits in very well there.

Well, I think I will stop dumping wasted time into tropical storm Dennis.

"Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid." John 14: 27

Tropical_Man
4919 posts 

5/4/2008 2:20 pm

Sophie, Yes I did call you ignorant. Walking Man is a patrhetic lost soul of ignorance and I will not waste my time with liberal trash that he is.

The only thing fake here is your brain and its lack of activity. Paul has long fabricated garbage to go with his polluted mind. I dont waste the time on him. He is one sick dude. Perhaps that is why he medicates.

I have nothing to apologize for in my statements and the content.. I do feel bad she is hoodwinked into the cult she is in. I feel bad she feels bad.

But in the same sense, she tried to control what people say here. I do not think you are up to comphrehending that.

Merlinhawk
1060 posts 

5/4/2008 3:57 pm

Dennis,

Your "apology" sounds as bad as famous Joseph Ratzinger's "apology":


“At this time I wish also to add that I am deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a few passages of my address at the University of Regensburg, which were considered offensive to the sensibility of Muslims,”


I'd advise you to only apologize for things you realize Holy Spirit is convicting you to apologize for, otherwise just let the chips fall where they may, even if "everyone" ends up attacking you.

Merlinhawk
1060 posts 

5/4/2008 4:01 pm

[Your detailed personality exposed ]
Your personality and Lisa's are both described in here.
(this helps to understand why you act the way you do and why she does the way she does)
If anyone else wants there's to also be, they can post their request in there.

yendor2
7148 posts

5/4/2008 6:34 pm

Dennis... Lisa asked you to take this post down.. and as a brother in Christ I would ask that you would do as she wishes..

Life is too short so Lighten Up a bit...

Tropical_Man
4919 posts 

5/4/2008 8:20 pm

People I do not apologize for anything I stated or posted. I am kind of sick of the attitudes and responses. This was intended to be a simple apology for her hurt feelings. Everything I have posted regarding Catholicism is true. I havent seen a responce from her or anything. Its just a post and it stays. I am done with the subject of this apology.

A full apology happens when you admit you were wrong. I was not wrong. She deletes her long drawn out blog and I will delete this one.

Merlinhawk
1060 posts 

5/4/2008 8:58 pm

Delete the blog or the post?

Merlinhawk
1060 posts 

5/4/2008 8:59 pm

    Quoting Merlinhawk:
    Dennis,

    Your "apology" sounds as bad as famous Joseph Ratzinger's "apology":


    “At this time I wish also to add that I am deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a few passages of my address at the University of Regensburg, which were considered offensive to the sensibility of Muslims,”


    I'd advise you to only apologize for things you realize Holy Spirit is convicting you to apologize for, otherwise just let the chips fall where they may, even if "everyone" ends up attacking you.
By the way for those who do not know, Joseph Ratzinger is roman catholic Pope Benedict AND he made this statement AS Pope.

shouldknow
(Claudia T)

5/4/2008 10:35 pm

I should think that all you loving Christians would be glad if someone makes even the slightest hint of repentence, and keep in mind, we arent God so we cannot read the genuineness of someone's repentence or heart. If our motive is love then we shouldnt be acting as if we are just hoping the person isnt being genuine, because if they were then what? GASP! We would have to forgive them and stop going on and on about how they have hurt us!

"When one who has wandered far in sin seeks to return to God, he will encounter criticism and distrust. There are those who will doubt whether his repentance is genuine, or will whisper, "He has no stability; I do not believe that he will hold out." These persons are doing not the work of God but the work of Satan, who is the accuser of the brethren. Through their criticisms the wicked one hopes to discourage that soul, and to drive him still farther from hope and from God." Ellen White, "This Man Receiveth Sinners"

Watching for the wanderer to return... thats the key. Not acting as if we really hope that they didnt, because it would spoil our justification for being angry with them. Honestly, I dont know how some of you get by in life, its as if you just sit around all day just LOOKING for some way, some how, that someone has offended you.

Its Just Me.

shouldknow
(Claudia T)

5/4/2008 10:43 pm

I forgot to say, Happy not the Sabbath but just another day of the week --Monday, Dennis!

Its Just Me.

crucified777
809 posts 

5/5/2008 2:54 am

    Quoting Sweethoney2007:
    crucified777

    Actually, the holy Spirit,rebukes,convicts,corrects,provokes to jealousy, slays the blasphemer at will, causes calamity and disasters to get mans attention, turns the rebellious over to Satan for chastisement,
    and a lot of other things to deal with man and not always gentleness and meekness. We must look at the whole bible and be led by God in our witnessing. Some people need a kick in the pants while others only a soft word.

where you born saved?
and if not when you where rebellious did JESUS turn you over to satan for chastisement? i think not!HE waited patiently till you realized you were in rebellion and turned from your wicken ways and realized you needed a messiah...you love HIM because HE first loved you.

Cathoholic
536 posts 

5/5/2008 4:47 am



Sorry, Catholics do not worship Mary. My Church does not teach that anywhere in the Catechism. If you wish to Apologize then do so by not mis-representing what exactly it is the Catholic Church teaches. Your information has not been true, it's been deceptive.

I have yet to find one shred of evidence you have provided from official Catholic documents that state we believe Mary is a Goddess and worship her as one.

I myself am Catholic, I never worship Mary and my Church never has either. To say you think I don't know the difference between Mary and God himself and I don't understand that is insulting. This apology is not an apology at all, merely a continuation of the lies you are supporting.

Also, Protestants came up with their own canon, they had no authority to do that. Remember, Jesus didn't need the Protestant Churches to come up with the "right canon" 1,500 yrs after he died and was resurrected. He already established ONE Singular Church before that time.

I wish you had more common sense.

Cathoholic
536 posts 

5/5/2008 4:49 am

    Quoting NJBeliever:
    I give you a lot of credit for apologizing whether people accept it or not. I do think that we have to be respectful of each other even in disagreement. And I know I have certainly seen a lot of disrespect and been disrespected myself in this forum with no subsequent apology.

    It's clear that there is a "oneness" denomination in Christianity now that values "unity" over everything else. And I am not scared or ashamed to say I disagree with it. Doctrine matters and The Word is the final authority over everything. But at the same time we can have a spirit of love, compassion and respect in our debates and discussion.


I'm sorry, but Christs Church is supposed to be one. It should strive to bring all the Churches together in Unity. Seeking Unity is not against the Bible. Thats absurd. The "Word" is the final authority, but your talking about "Bible only" when you talk about "The Word" something the bible does not teach anywhere.

Sola scripture is false.

Sweethoney2007
4937 posts 

5/5/2008 7:56 am

The Catholic Church is an apostate church that the bible calls the harlot of Babylon.

Love you Lisa!

But I make no apologies for the truth!!!


Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."

Merlinhawk
1060 posts 

5/5/2008 9:12 am

    Quoting Cathoholic:


    I'm sorry, but Christs Church is supposed to be one. It should strive to bring all the Churches together in Unity. Seeking Unity is not against the Bible. Thats absurd. The "Word" is the final authority, but your talking about "Bible only" when you talk about "The Word" something the bible does not teach anywhere.

    Sola scripture is false.
Not if it means going against the truth.
Otherwise Jesus would have jelled with the Pharisees and with the Saducees.

ReadingandRoses
5292 posts

5/5/2008 11:42 am

My apology to you Dennis for my part in fueling negative talk. I usually keep my mouth shut and regret that I didn't this time. I have zero "bad feelings" about you - never have and still don't. Commenting publicly was ill advised. My bad....

Susan aka Red

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