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rich903
57 posts 

4/19/2008 9:54 am

I hope I never stop crying... I hope my love for Jesus keeps me crying for ever for what I have seen in this place. I hope I am still crying when I face God. I hope I will spend eternity- as sad as I feel- weeping about what the church has become. It's better to weep and to hunger and thirst for Him- than be so SMUG and despicable as what christians have become. Let me starve- let me thirst- let me BE that little lost one- for I KNOW who loves me- and is coming to get me back. I KNOW He hears me cry since I AM the 1 He was looking for. I may die- before He gets to me- But I will face my Maker KNOWING I walked away from you people- so busy fighting about your thorns and poison water. I KNOW He knows you people are killing lambs... and yes, my tears will witness that before Him. I want to cry- I want to feel this pain of your wickedness upon my neck. I want to fall and stop wandering cuz HE KNOWS I'M here... damn near skin and bones... maybe- since He's looking for me... maybe He'll get here in time... But I can't last much longer... thirsty... starving... baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... happy yet? Listen to the lamb... it knows God way better already- than you people ever will...

rich903
57 posts 

4/19/2008 9:56 am

You think it's funny... don't you....
Look again... read what is there.

rich903
57 posts 

4/19/2008 10:59 am

Did you give me a drink of water... or did you throw it in my face?
Did you feed me... or did you tear off another chunk of my soul?
Did you forget- harming a little one... for any reason- puts the millstone around your own neck...
What have you forgotten... what have you purposely been doing with your arguements? Ignoring Jesus. Playing God. Killing lambs.
"learn of me..." that is what your job was... learn how to feed lambs... sheep... if He were here- would you still be killing His lambs? He IS here you know... He's here. Watching you snicker about a starving lamb and it's cries. I'm a witness to that... the dying lamb is watching too- so take another chunk... devour... think it's funny some more...

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/19/2008 3:02 pm

I just think you are being silly. I am sorry for you that you think defending the truth is not worth it. Jesus whipped the money changers with a whip. Hecalled out the Priests publicly who were falsly representing the scriptures and called them white washed tombs.

Peter was publicly rebuked for trying to get the gentiles to follow the dead Jewish laws, which were never given to them to begin with.
I fist off wonder how old you are? 15? Your statements reflect imaturity

rich903
57 posts 

4/20/2008 3:08 am

    Quoting Tropical_Man:
    I just think you are being silly. I am sorry for you that you think defending the truth is not worth it. Jesus whipped the money changers with a whip. Hecalled out the Priests publicly who were falsly representing the scriptures and called them white washed tombs.

    Peter was publicly rebuked for trying to get the gentiles to follow the dead Jewish laws, which were never given to them to begin with.
    I fist off wonder how old you are? 15? Your statements reflect imaturity
Like I said. You think killimg lambs is "silly stuff". Even when warned... you call the warning silly. You make excuses for harming them. Jesus said- what you do to one of these- you do to HIM. Of course YOU are correct. Jesus is JUST BEING SILLY.
I'll go stand with "silly"- you "defend TRUTH" all you like- while forgetting HE doesn't NEED defending- only your FALSE RELIGION DOES.

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/20/2008 3:37 am

Rich I do not pretend to have all of the answers. But I do recognize someone that has a very shallow and unbalanced view of things. You do not even understand the whole side of Jesus. Thats ok, I realize that you do not. If you had a better understanding of scriptures, you would actually realize that we are called to stop the leaven.

It is mentioned in many places.

freddie72

4/20/2008 8:02 am

tropical man and friends

please read this wisely

i have read this entire post

the sweethoney lady is tragiccaallly lost and deluded in mindless doctrine in my view

You know you are right Tropical man....but why stir an insane misguided lady UP???

just leave it man....dont do controversy...just do humility and TRY TO LEAD PEOPLE TO JESUS ......dont even Corrupt converts with the SHAME of calvinist/non calvinist futility

doctrine ,steady...balanced and true...is important

BUT ITS FUTILE UNLESS WE COOPERATE WITH THE AUTHOR AND SAVE SOULS

be fruitful...die to the need too fight for Futile mindsets

preach the gospel to those who need it...the mature the young the lost

whoever

but not to religious people DYING STUBBORNLY IN PERVERTED SHAMEFUL DOCTRINE

shame all over the church

let the dead bury the dead

for Gods sake LEAVE THE DEAD ALONE AND EXHORT THE LIVING

FRED

dont examine corpses its yukky,,,almost perverse

please use your teaching to good fruit

rich903
57 posts 

4/20/2008 8:24 am

    Quoting Tropical_Man:
    Rich I do not pretend to have all of the answers. But I do recognize someone that has a very shallow and unbalanced view of things. You do not even understand the whole side of Jesus. Thats ok, I realize that you do not. If you had a better understanding of scriptures, you would actually realize that we are called to stop the leaven.

    It is mentioned in many places.
Jesus had them. I do KNOW that He did- all but one answer. He still doesn't know "when".
The rest- He taught us- about the Father's will. EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW. To either BE SHEEP- Or FEED SHEEP. Has nothing to DO with religion or doctrine or with "defending the faith".
The things you are arguing about here DO NOT MATTER IN THE LEAST. Not ONE demomination is doing it the way Christ taught EFFICIENTLY and ABUNDANTLY. Why? They simply have NEVER BEEN TAUGHT HOW TO BE SHEPHERDS. Too busy with doctrine. Too busy with "church matters". Too busy "defending against some other church(es)" doctrines. THE FLOCKS ARE OUT THERE IN SATAN'S TERRITORY.

I know people who want to build a shelter. I know folks who want to build food stocks so people don't need to go hungry. I know people who want to STOP SOME SUFFERING WHEN IT I HAPPENING NOT ON SOME SCHEDULE OR WHAT EVER.
JESUS said that is what it's all about. Look at how Jesus DID IT. Then DO IT. What is confused or shallow or unbalanced about KNOWING YOU ARE DEAD WRONG TO WASTE TIME DEFENDING A DYING CHURCH WHEN YOU COULD BE IN HIS FLOCK INSTEAD OF A CHURCH FULL OF SINNERS?
You killed a lamb here. Answer to God for that one. I do understand the whole side of Jesus- far better than you ever will. "Like a child"- you idiot adults will never stop fighting long enought to listen to the master repeating His instructions. have AT it dude. You could be doing a MILLION PERCENT BETTER- you and I BOTH know it. So does He. SO does HE. Everybody says time is short. You better plant some sheep food here soon. They are going to be coming by the millions. Can't feed them? "if you DON'T DO IT FOR THEM- YOU DON'T DO IT TO ME". What part of Jesus don't I know? The part that says He winks at your sheep killing stupidity. "works" they AINT for you- they ARE FOR HIS SHEEP. How can YOU help them? Want to LEARN?

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/20/2008 9:16 am

you really need something Rich. Nice taking God's name in vain and preaching to us. Jesus loves you and he can help you!

Jesus please help Rich. Help him have peace and understanding

momto3beagles
4736 posts

4/20/2008 10:18 am

I shop at Roots. Does that count?

Save a life, please adopt your next pet from a shelter, pound or rescue.
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Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/20/2008 10:38 am

LOL Hi Mia

rich903
57 posts 

4/20/2008 10:56 am

    Quoting Tropical_Man:
    you really need something Rich. Nice taking God's name in vain and preaching to us. Jesus loves you and he can help you!

    Jesus please help Rich. Help him have peace and understanding
Please DO show me where you think I "took God's name in vain". With this "pseudo-accusation" you reveal that with all of your goofy doctrinal errors and false beliefs- you have NO CLUE what "taking God's name in vain" even means.

I have pointed out that you are WASTING TIME here with your trivial doctrinal BS- while YOU- "Dennis" could be doing what CHRIST specifically said to do the exact way He said to DO IT. Did JESUS ever tell you to "STOP THE LEAVEN"- or just BEWARE OF IT? Disobedience comes from 2 directions- NOT doing something- and DOING OTHER STUFF YOU ARE NOT TO DO. Moses example should have taught you that. Did you learn from Moses little sin? Evidently not.
Your prayer is BS too- since you have NO CLUE what my relationship is with The Father or Jesus His Son. Your BS completely UNKNOWING judgmentalism in that area is just more stupidity forced on you by your failing religion. You have NO RIGHT to attempt to tell JESUS OR THE FATHER anything about me- since HE ALREADY KNOWS ME INSIDE OUT.

Better stop while you are behind- don't you think? Father knows- as does His Son- what is being accomplished here.
Stay asleep Dennis. He knows, as I do- "what I need". If you actually DID know JESUS OR THE FATHER you'd never pray such stupid judgmental prayers. EVER.
Want to learn OF THEM? First show me where you THINK I took God's name in vain. Just focus on reality for a change.

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/20/2008 11:23 am

It was there Rich. Lets see Rich, you come here acting like a whiny baby. Hmmmn since you changed your post above somehow. I will just take it that you are a moderator here.

I know you arent very bright sed on your sttements here. I am not real concerned about your statements because its obvious you do not know what you are talking about.

rich903
57 posts 

4/20/2008 12:01 pm

    Quoting rich903:
    I came back just special to see what was going on again. There is no Jesus in here... I don't hear HIS VOICE HARDLY AT ALL in here- just more doctrine debate and badly formed opinions of same.
    Thank God I can actually hear Jesus from afar- telling me to "come away"..."depart" from THIS FOLD... I suppose I'm too uncorrupted to survive here for very long. It's not just a wolf in here. It's a whole pack and the hireling shepherd is on vacation or consumed already.
    Leave it to us lambs- to wander into wolf territory by mistake- especially when they took over our own fold when the hireling leaves us to fend for ourselves. (sadly, mournfully, weepingly) ... ... ... Baaaaaaaa .... .... .... is THIS the "feed my lambs" chow Jesus was talking about then... The sheep food that He wanted us to be nourished on? You people poison us little ones... I could starve to death- on this bunch of thistles and thorns and you wolves would never stop... notice... THINK that Jesus said FEEEEEEEED ME... not hurt me. (weeping, sad, oblivious to the danger ) little me... watchin the wolves- devour each other... baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I walk away from christianity now... convinced God made a huge mistake. baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (Where are you Jesus... speak just one more time for me to get my bearings... I neeed you Jesus) Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    Shame on every G_d da mned one of you.
Since you couldn't FIND it and POST it "taking God's name in vain"- I did it FOR you here in this quote. above. Make it easy for you.

Which word in that post - is God's NAME? Blurt it out for us will ya? Cuz I don't see it in there anywhere.
So let's make sure yet again. Is it IN THERE Dennis?
You are a total goof ball,- told you I am a lamb... and yes- I changed my post you referred to- to make certain you DO understand why your doctrines are forcing you to literally SIN thinking you are NOT sinning. You DON'T follow even your own religion- much less Jesus.
Moderator? HUH? It had the "delete" link at the bottom so I did that and re-wrote it for you. MODERATOR? I am not an employee of BC in any way shape or form.
See what I mean? You are so freaking CLUELESS but you ASSUME and GUESS thinking you KNOW stuff you CAN NOT KNOW. You ever going to STOP? And yes- I do know what I'm talking about... you just can't face REALTY as I suggested you to do.
I focus on the Father. Don't need or care about your "judgments" of what you THINK I don't know... You still have not addressed Christ and His words here yet... what's that tell others about YOU? What are you running from Dennis? You can't "remove leaven" from the lump. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYONE BUT GOD TO DO. The bread won't be the same once it's there already. Give it UP- and feed His lambs. think THAT might be what He said to do? Hmmmmm?

rich903
57 posts 

4/20/2008 12:13 pm

Paul tried removing HIS OWN LEAVEN once he put it in. Didn't work for him either. Only God can remove it... Bible says He will fail too because of our "free will"... Man o man are we going get our butts kicked. Cept for the little ones who never baked ANY BREAD AT ALL. think about it... "little ones"... "Of such is the kingdom"... "no grown up bread bakers at all"... get it YET Dennis?

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/20/2008 1:12 pm

I can see who has bewitched YOU Rich or Ed or whoever this is. Nice try lol

So lame

rich903
57 posts 

4/20/2008 2:20 pm

Um Hm. Yup. You ignore the message- and stone the messenger. No one has "bewitched" me at all. Nothing lame about Jesus. nd everything I have posted for you is totally found IN SCRIPTURE. Everything.
You are too focused on MEN and the WORLD instead of God And His Stuff. Just as Jesus told Peter that time.
Ya just will never get it Dennis. This is a wake up call. That's why I also told ya- "stay asleep"... He'll get your attention later then.
I'm just the messenger to the hirelings- The owner is watching... might want to remember that wee detail. That's in the Bible too. I am His son... adoption don't ya know. ignore me. Ignore Him. It's your destiny isn't it? He heals "lame folks". Doesn't He? Yeah... being lame (according to you I am anyway )is a distinct advantage. As well as being "a little one", lame now too. Even Better in His eyes. Thanks!

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/20/2008 9:00 pm

Geez...........................

TypeCWiley
97 posts 

4/21/2008 8:12 am

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GOT YOURSELF INTO HERE. PERHAPS A BIG FAN, BUT IN A WEIRD WAY!

IN MY EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH THE TOPICS OF THEOLOGY AND CULTS, YOU WILL END UP GETTING PEOPLE FROM VARIOUS PERSUASIONS WHO ARE REALLY "OUT THERE!"


JOHN 14:6 -- JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH, THE LIFE!

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/21/2008 9:07 pm

well they are out there. My God came in the form of his Son to save all mankind. He loves us and gives all a free will.

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/21/2008 11:22 pm

"Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?" Galatians 4:16

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/21/2008 11:23 pm

I know Rich is probably a fake id too, just by his actions and lack of posts

rich903
57 posts 

4/22/2008 2:52 pm

    Quoting Tropical_Man:
    "Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?" Galatians 4:16
I have told you the TRUTH. And now you think I am somehow your enemy or even the enemy of Christ. Did I not warn you of where you are headed? You now post scriptures that fully convict you. I tried to warn you. Jesus tried to warn you. You believe you are better than Him, and here you go. I tell you TRUTH- and the best you can do is falter, back pedal and then rush in to attack. "Feed the sheep" Not "go attack the sheep". Is this the BEST food Jesus said you need to feed sheep with? Or is it just YOU thinking thorns and thistles is what He meant? Hmmmmm?

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/22/2008 5:06 pm

Rich you do not know enough to know the truth

rich903
57 posts 

4/22/2008 6:24 pm

    Quoting Tropical_Man:
    Rich you do not know enough to know the truth
According to YOU- NO ONE knows better than you- including Christ and His Father.
Ask Jesus. Are you FEEDING HIS SHEEP AND LAMBS NOW- or are you POISONING us with your BULL SH*IT?
What "truth" is it you THINK I don't know concerning Jesus- The Son of God and His message? I've kicked you to the curb here in this matter- and the BEST you have been able to do is talk BS and NEVER answer for your own self. You have consistently claimed YOU know better than Christ and keep on assuming I'm unaware of Whom Jesus is and the Father is. Look at your arguments- "rich you do not know enough to know truth... and yet I have been able to stop you from PISSING ON SHEEP for a while have I not? I DO know what Jesus taught TRUTH IS, and I DO know why God had Him teach it- something you evidently ignore purposely so you can THINK you can do God's job FOR Him. Give it UP dennis. If this is the BEST you can answer as a supposed rebuttal to TRUTH- on your knees and find out WHY. Then come and try again- to tell me JESUS IS WRONG AND YOU ARE CORRECT. Be a COLD day in HELL you stop your BS long enough to LISTEN TO GOD. Better get started now cuz it's going to take you a loooooooong while.

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/23/2008 4:05 am

nope... that is according to YOU. This whole issue with Prwedestination is all due to people twisting scriptures and not using the ones within the covenant that we now have. Its that simple.

rich903
57 posts 

4/23/2008 7:12 am

Try this. Define exactly what is "the covenant that we now have". Since you enjoy such detail as found in lots of your other posts- by all means- if you need a page or two or more- go as far as you feel a need to go- to completely recite the details, requirements and benefits of just "the Covenant". Boil it down or go long- up to what you believe will provide the proper informtion. Perhaps that will help me understand better what you say you know- and I don't about this "covenant" only. Feed me.

Tropical_Man
5801 posts 

4/23/2008 2:44 pm

Ok Rich. That is fair. I am pretty tired tonight. I DO promise I will do this for you. am not feeling real well.

rich903
57 posts 

4/24/2008 11:31 am

I actually am sorry you aren't feeling well...

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