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Why is it that CHRISTIANS do not realize that bringing up somebodys past is playing the DEVILS ADVOCATE. It is SATAN that ACCUSES the BRETHREN and being that it is the past, it becomes a lie because that SIN no longer exsists in the EYES of GOD right? So when satan brings that ACCUSATION before the HOLY GOD it is a MALICIOUS LIE. When a CHRISTIAN brings up a BRETHRENS PAST he is LYING before the HOLY GOD ... Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us |
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11/3/2009 9:33 pm |
Jesus brought the past of hypocrites all the time. The only difference with many today who bring up the past is Jesus doesn't lie.
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11/4/2009 5:27 am |
Jesus brought the past of hypocrites all the time. The only difference with many today who bring up the past is Jesus doesn't lie. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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11/4/2009 7:47 am |
Godwhispers, Do me a big favor. It would too be a big favor for others as well to do this. Read the whole book of 1 Corinthians. Yes, there are non-brethren of which are partly in power today, which should be out of office as soon as we put our better people up there. Paul in a way was telling Christians they were hypocritical. He even judges them the right way and says to tell them in one instance, "they don't follow the right things" when they are telling others to do so. Paul was scolding, correcting, and even telling Christians to not associate with brethren who are practicing those things that will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Then we have the seven churches as well where Jesus warned people about their past and present behaviors. It's not condemning but a warning to those who refuse to listen and return the faith that was based on the fear of God and the love neighbor as well. Anyway, if you read that book you'll see entirely what I'm saying. There is war on and it's against secularism too and Paul clearly says 'the saints' are far better than these non-brethren so that means act like it. It's better to note people's past in a godly way in other to strengthen the believer's cause and that is to keep on focus on those things that help and benefit our cause. If the brethren our failing then maybe it's because we have the wrong role models. Those wrong role models must be erased mentally, exposed, and hopefully brought back to our fold to be genuine in what they claim.
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11/4/2009 12:36 pm |
Jeremiah exposed himself--sorry for the pun--when HE came on this site--NO ONE but HIM has shut this site down--he knows it and he loves it--this guy loves Power --if you havent learned that about him by now--well so be it!!
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11/4/2009 9:23 pm |
spitfire, how do you know so much about him. Show me your ways of the force.
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11/5/2009 6:39 am |
the force--cute response oh trekkie lol
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11/5/2009 7:36 am |
The Lord has His way of drawing true believers to me... and exposing the false believers to all. Salvation is of the LORD
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11/5/2009 2:40 pm |
Yes sweet Jeremiah you my dear have been exposed lol
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11/5/2009 3:25 pm |
Yes sweet Jeremiah you my dear have been exposed lol Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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11/5/2009 5:01 pm |
Hi GodWhispers! FragrantRose08, BeautyforAshes08, AnointedVessel08, Blessedone08, Spitfiregrill09 and DeeDee, Did I miss any? You were banned from BC for your vulgar heart towards Jeremiah. You were the one that was exposed. You laid open your heart for everyone to see. Every time you open your mouth your spew hatred towards Jeremiah. What comes out of your mouth is really what's in your heart. I don't see you as a true christian. You said you were molested when you were younger. Why do you keep taking it out on Jeremiah? He never had a problem with you but you defended the wrong person as he was exposing her and in the process you were exposed too. Jeremiah has never done anything to you yet you have this continued hatred for him. You are the one exposed and you did it to yourself.
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11/5/2009 5:02 pm |
Whispers-he is your dear Friend not mine---I choose my friends wisely!!! No one on here is the devils advocate because of who we choose to align ourselves with!!! I;mnot the one who broughthis past into the blogs---and at this point the blogs are dying off anyway so who really cares!!!!
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11/5/2009 7:29 pm |
His-=I cant stand your pervert boyfriend--who is a known child molestor in 2 states--heck you must really be desperate to want this man in your life--but if he floats your tiny little boat--so be it!!! 2nd--you lie about the fact you are AG---but those lies are so huge I wont even go there!! AG are not calvinists---hmm--forgot to check tha tout huh before you began your lying spree on here--next time sweet pea check your theology before you come on here with your lies!! His called the national headquarters about you--hmm they say you dont exist--interesting Jeremiah sure thinks you do!!!
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11/5/2009 7:29 pm |
1) I care if the blogs are dying off. Although I hate that word blogs...but that is just me. 2) I've seen a few lulls here in my short time here, and this is only another one. 3) The idealist in me knows how it should be here. The romanticist in me wants the milk and honey, but ....but....the realist in me knows that this BC place will foster the full spectrum over time....and that includes good, the bad, and the ugly and the dissensions complete with flame fanners. 4) So, there can be value to that as well. 5) But, I am curious about hundreds of things. One that would be a good post for someone to make is this: What good has ever come from the attacks...the slanders...the misapplications of truth...the ill will towards each other...etc....etc....??? I am curious if there is one person out there who will speak up and say that they have been swayed in their beliefs by any debate, discussion, or argument....??? I am not saying that there aren't any. I will say that I haven't seen any evidence of it. Somehow I've learned how to listen to the sound of the sun going down. ~ R. Crowell
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11/5/2009 7:33 pm |
Oh and by the way I continue to stand by Gloria who has onely from day one been gracious to Jeremiah yet HE has spewed only hatred and garbage at her---so you best look at who you are defending---but at this point even the lord cant get through to you because you have already made the choice to align yourself with him----and you will pay a great price for that!!!!
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11/5/2009 8:38 pm |
Oh and by the way I continue to stand by Gloria who has onely from day one been gracious to Jeremiah yet HE has spewed only hatred and garbage at her---so you best look at who you are defending---but at this point even the lord cant get through to you because you have already made the choice to align yourself with him----and you will pay a great price for that!!!! Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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11/5/2009 8:42 pm |
Whispers-he is your dear Friend not mine---I choose my friends wisely!!! No one on here is the devils advocate because of who we choose to align ourselves with!!! I;mnot the one who broughthis past into the blogs---and at this point the blogs are dying off anyway so who really cares!!!! Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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11/5/2009 9:55 pm |
whispers--you are the one who needs council to continue to stand with this man--have you even read what His and Rosa have posted--I;m sure you have whispers and yet you continue to call them liars and Jeremiah you continue to beleive every word that comes out of his mouth!!! I;m sorry whispers but that I dont understand!!
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11/5/2009 9:57 pm |
Heart was the one who said the blogs were dying off--not me--but I agree totally with her--it will end up being Jeremiahs blogs and he will have the Power he craves so badly!! I hope he enjoys it!!
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11/5/2009 10:04 pm |
Playing the Devils Advocate? LOL Making people aware that an individual on here is a convicted pedophile is NOT being the Devils advocate. Good grief, give your head a shake. He claims he is innocent yet, what if he is guilty. If so innocent, why was he sent back to prison? Innocent people are NOT sent back to prison!! It's called wisdom in letting people know. I could say so much more but............ The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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11/6/2009 4:57 am |
Playing the Devils Advocate? LOL Making people aware that an individual on here is a convicted pedophile is NOT being the Devils advocate. Good grief, give your head a shake. He claims he is innocent yet, what if he is guilty. If so innocent, why was he sent back to prison? Innocent people are NOT sent back to prison!! It's called wisdom in letting people know. I could say so much more but............ Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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11/6/2009 8:19 am |
G-Dub...just a note... Don't use the terms they choose to use unless you are sure of the definition. They don't even know what "pedophile" means! And you are right about the smallest little thing... very small! And as far as DEE DEE is concerned...ignore her. She will lap up your spirit and cause you to become weary. She's not worth the time. She's been BANNED by Big Church and she needs to go away! Hang tight, sister! I want you to know you are on the right side of all this! Thank you for your grace, and mercy, and wisdom, and loyalty! I would die for brethren like this! My Beloved would tell you that this is so! HalleluJAH! Amen and Amen! Salvation is of the LORD
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11/6/2009 9:57 am |
oh by the way jer--nope--not banned sweet pea--how funny you are!!!! And yes we do know what a pedophile is--I wont gointo all the details of what one is because ding dong precious one--you are one--oops--convicted but as all pedophiles claim--I never did the crime--Yea right lol---keep on whispers supporting him but I wouldnt let your young children or grandchildren ever go near him--just a word to the wise!!!
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11/6/2009 6:57 pm |
First of all, YES YOU and some of the OTHERS are playing DEVILS ADVOCATES when you made the decision to bring up JEREMIAHS PAST, where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing this? Where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing that it is SATAN that ACCUSES THE BRETHREN? Where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing that GOD KNOWS THE MOTIVES OF THE HEART? Where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing that okay, whether or NOT JEREMIAH is a convicted pedophile or not, IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! Where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing that what YOU and some of the others here have done is WICKED, EVIL AND UNGODLY? Where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing that when a person is on probation or parole, the smallest of smallest thing can be a VIOLATION of ones probation or parole and that is how they keep the system going.... Jeremiah could have got sent back to prison for not making a simple phone call... YOU DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS and this man DOES NOT NEED TO EXPLAIN A DAMN THING TO YOU! LOL... GOOD GRIEF, SHAKE YOUR HEAD and stop letting the DEVIL LIE TO YOU! If YOU had any WISDOM whatsoever, YOU WOULD STOP ALL THIS NONSENSE and let the man be... It's everybody's business to know he's a pedophile. That's the law. Are you suggesting we overthrow the laws of the land? Your cursing kind of says who you're submitting this up to. A "sex offender in two states" doesn't mean that he went back a second time over a phone call. By the way, YOU are the one that started this up again. No sense blaming someone else. BTW, Prissy, God is his defender, as God is mine. He doesn't need someone cursing and damning people in the name of Christ's graces.
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11/6/2009 7:02 pm |
You did some pretty creative editing of God's Word to come up with your post. What seems to be exposed is your lack of spiritual understanding. When we accuse each other, we create strongholds. We don't become liars because we spoke a truth. Maybe God forgave, but truth will always be truth. Anything else, and you've manipulated a lie, trying to make truth a lie, and a lie appear to be truth. God doesn't do a flip on the truth because someone repented. Truth will always be truth.
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11/6/2009 10:16 pm |
You did some pretty creative editing of God's Word to come up with your post. What seems to be exposed is your lack of spiritual understanding. When we accuse each other, we create strongholds. We don't become liars because we spoke a truth. Maybe God forgave, but truth will always be truth. Anything else, and you've manipulated a lie, trying to make truth a lie, and a lie appear to be truth. God doesn't do a flip on the truth because someone repented. Truth will always be truth. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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11/6/2009 10:55 pm |
I don't have your HABITS Longing and beleive me I don't LACK spiritual understanding... I'll tell you this much, if I EVER get into the PLACE that you and those other women are, I HOPE and PRAY that GOD just comes and gets me because to have the MINDSET that you have, I rather just be dead!
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11/7/2009 3:29 pm |
Excuse me but I wasn't convicted for being a pedophile. So get your facts straight. But the truth doesn't matter to you does it? No...it doesn't. Salvation is of the LORD
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11/7/2009 4:39 pm |
First of all, YES YOU and some of the OTHERS are playing DEVILS ADVOCATES when you made the decision to bring up JEREMIAHS PAST, where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing this? Where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing that it is SATAN that ACCUSES THE BRETHREN? Where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing that GOD KNOWS THE MOTIVES OF THE HEART? Where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing that okay, whether or NOT JEREMIAH is a convicted pedophile or not, IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! Where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing that what YOU and some of the others here have done is WICKED, EVIL AND UNGODLY? Where is YOUR WISDOM in knowing that when a person is on probation or parole, the smallest of smallest thing can be a VIOLATION of ones probation or parole and that is how they keep the system going.... Jeremiah could have got sent back to prison for not making a simple phone call... YOU DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS and this man DOES NOT NEED TO EXPLAIN A DAMN THING TO YOU! LOL... GOOD GRIEF, SHAKE YOUR HEAD and stop letting the DEVIL LIE TO YOU! If YOU had any WISDOM whatsoever, YOU WOULD STOP ALL THIS NONSENSE and let the man be... Yes, satan is the accuser of the brethern however, the state of California obvioulsy felt there was enough credible evidence to convict him as he spent six years in prison and went back for parole violation. As Longing has said it is everyone's business who is a pedophile / sex offender. Your own government agrees, thus there creation of the National Sex Offender Registry some years ago. I didn't know it was wicked, evil, or ungodly to inform people that someone they know is a convicted pedophile. Again do you not want to protect the children? I should stop this nonsense - me? I had been silent for a while. I wrote a blog in response to your blog of several days ago. You brought Jeremiah's name into it - I never even referred to him. You appear to be the one continuing this. You seemed to have written several blogs concerning this whole situation as you haven't like the responses some of us have given. I have a question for you. If a convicted pedophile came to your Church would you inform your Pastor. Would you allow this pedophile to infiltrate your Church family? Or would you just sit back and say oh well, that is there past knowing full well that the rate of recidivism is extremely high - in fact probable? The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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11/7/2009 5:03 pm |
Excuse me but I wasn't convicted for being a pedophile. So get your facts straight. But the truth doesn't matter to you does it? No...it doesn't. You really don't want to debate this do you? The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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11/7/2009 11:20 pm |
It is not playing the devils advocate to inform people who is a pedophile / sex offender - it is called wisdom, and protecting the innocence of our children. It appears we will always disagree on this point. Yes, satan is the accuser of the brethern however, the state of California obvioulsy felt there was enough credible evidence to convict him as he spent six years in prison and went back for parole violation. As Longing has said it is everyone's business who is a pedophile / sex offender. Your own government agrees, thus there creation of the National Sex Offender Registry some years ago. I didn't know it was wicked, evil, or ungodly to inform people that someone they know is a convicted pedophile. Again do you not want to protect the children? I should stop this nonsense - me? I had been silent for a while. I wrote a blog in response to your blog of several days ago. You brought Jeremiah's name into it - I never even referred to him. You appear to be the one continuing this. You seemed to have written several blogs concerning this whole situation as you haven't like the responses some of us have given. I have a question for you. If a convicted pedophile came to your Church would you inform your Pastor. Would you allow this pedophile to infiltrate your Church family? Or would you just sit back and say oh well, that is there past knowing full well that the rate of recidivism is extremely high - in fact probable? Isn't church the best place for a "pedophile" to be? Isn't that where sinners should be? Or maybe just not in your church? You quote statistics as far as it's "probable" that a pedophile will act again. I know the statistics but I also KNOW MY GOD, who is life changing. You can put your trust in statistics, I'll place my trust in God. You keep trying to make what you did by giving Claudia information on Jeremiah's past sound noble and good. You gave Claudia the information to discredit Jeremiah in his argument with her. If you wanted to warn the people you would have blogged it and put it on front page, but you didn't do it that way. His4ever was sorry and apologized to Jeremiah for going off-site and bringing his past to Big Church. If His4ever saw what she did with you was wrong and apologized why can't you? Jeremiah has told me enough about his case as well as talking with others who were around and knew the circumstances for me to know that he is innocent. There is a lot that you do not know. Jeremiah has even declared his innocence at this site. He has even invited those who he believes are true "christian" to email him with their concerns. Nobody has emailed him so I guess there not concerned.
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11/8/2009 9:00 am |
I'm glad I don't go to your church. Have you run a background check on everyone in your congregation and informed the pastor of their past? How about a check on the pastor? I know a lot of pastors with terrible pasts. I hope you included your own past in that report. Isn't church the best place for a "pedophile" to be? Isn't that where sinners should be? Or maybe just not in your church? You quote statistics as far as it's "probable" that a pedophile will act again. I know the statistics but I also KNOW MY GOD, who is life changing. You can put your trust in statistics, I'll place my trust in God. You keep trying to make what you did by giving Claudia information on Jeremiah's past sound noble and good. You gave Claudia the information to discredit Jeremiah in his argument with her. If you wanted to warn the people you would have blogged it and put it on front page, but you didn't do it that way. His4ever was sorry and apologized to Jeremiah for going off-site and bringing his past to Big Church. If His4ever saw what she did with you was wrong and apologized why can't you? Jeremiah has told me enough about his case as well as talking with others who were around and knew the circumstances for me to know that he is innocent. There is a lot that you do not know. Jeremiah has even declared his innocence at this site. He has even invited those who he believes are true "christian" to email him with their concerns. Nobody has emailed him so I guess there not concerned.
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11/8/2009 1:20 pm |
His--I know mY Pastor would definantly wantt o know if there was a convicted sex offender in church--to protect the Children and Young People!! There is room at the cross for sex offenders and I dont ever think Rosa meant any different!! Whatever Jeremiah did is forgivena nd covered by the blood---but she was aying with the law he hasnt proven his innocence yet!! Now if it was me-I would be doing anything I could to have the wrong--as Jeremiah claims--made right!! I wouldnt want soemthing like that on my record for one month yet alone for 6 yrs--and then he dida dumb thing like a Parole Violation--BUT you expect everyone in here to simply beleive he is innocent--just because you and he say so!!!! That is simply not wisdom!!! IF he is innocent why in all these yrs hasnt he proven it--COULD it be because he dosent have the proof???? And hes a scammer--askinghis to put 25.00a month on her credit card while hes in prison--hmm--if you have so much money traveling back and forth to Africa as an AG Missioanry why didnt YOU pay the 25.00???? Oh yes--its because your Not an AG missioanry and have never traveled back and forth to Africa!!! it might be time YOU start telling the truth--OH and also the AG do NOT beleive inPredestination/Calvinistic theology--so youmight check out your so called denominations theology before YOU come in here spouting your lies!!!! You know its very sad=--Jeremiah worships at the alter of Jeremiah--and so do you!!!!
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11/8/2009 1:35 pm |
True Jeremiah, you were not convicted of being a pedophile per ce. You were charged under Section 288(a) Lewd or Lascivious acts with child under 14 years. You really don't want to debate this do you? You don't deal in truth. You call me a pedophile and you don't even know what it means. Listen Rosaceae...I tell you what...The great state of California has things under control handling its own convicts and prisoners. They're doing a fine job in politicizing this crime on the airwaves and media. They scare people into voting for them so that they can be hard on crime, etc. Now that you used Claudia like a rag doll and bended her to your wicked scheme, I'm sure the Californians can take it from here. Thanks for your most gracious deeds in warning us, but why don't you and your other Canadian friend stay out of American lives, now. Why don't you now leave us Americans to our laws and its enforcement and take yourself back to Canada and stop bringing your most honorable sin to our lives here in California and in the United States of America. You can stop bringing up this American citizen's past and throwing it in my face. You can stop as Accuser of the Brethren, now. You can keep your mind on Canada and us Americans will keep our eyes on America. We'll do our best not to cause trouble when we visit Canadian web sites, ok? Thanks, now. And have a good life. Bye Bye now Salvation is of the LORD
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11/8/2009 1:49 pm |
Flip flops seem to go on here a lot, depending on who talks. Andrew is offended that I confront his attacks on the blogs,and then you and Andrew turn around and say that going "offline" was wrong. You simply don't want people talking period. You were posting comments and instruction and doctrine that was contrary to the Word of God. I posted the Word of God to refute your error so that others wouldn't be led astray by you. You began to delete the Scripture (Word of God) that I brought to your error and after a continual stream of error and saying the wrong things about the One True God, you finally blocked me. You continued in your false doctrine even though the Word of God I posted clearly refuted each and every ealse doctrine you wrote and tried to pass off as orthodox Church teaching. Then, when you could not resist the Word of God I posted that showed your error, you began to attack me personally with the fact that I have a criminal conviction over a decade ago and that was your weapon to throw in my face because I stood on the truth of the Word of God and finally discerned you a heretic and an unbeliever who's never met the grace of my God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Now you have friends on your heretical bandwagon and the more the merrier! But the Lord has exposed all six of you as lacking in grace, and mercy, and wisdom, and outside of the salvation of the Lord. That's where we are now. And don't try to enlarge it by saying I condemn people, as in many. Nope, I only reveal in my gift what God has taught me by your own words against the Holy Word of God and call you what the Word calls you. It is the Word that condemns you. And I stand with God and His Word. There's you, Claudia, Rosaceae2007, his4ever2007, Hisglory77, and Dee Dee. All of you have used my past and tried to injure me with it. And you don't even know the whole story! That's that magical part! You post from the side of your neck with only 1% truth and 99% error and missing parts. YOU ARE EXPOSED A HERETIC! And it's doctrinal, not personal. But you've made it personal, not doctrinal. Yup. That's the gist of it. Now what? Salvation is of the LORD
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11/8/2009 2:34 pm |
Dear lord Jeremiah Ive said it over and over and over and you still dont get it--YOU didnt give the 5 of us our salvation---by the way in case you havent heard--it was bought byt he Precious Blood of Jesus Christ--on Calvarys Cross---and YOU cant ever--never--take it away!! Where in Gods Green Earth do you think you have the power to do it---YOu dont lol--Again and I hate to repeat myself you and your beloved are Con Artists and you think you have duped tons of people in here--but ya know what--I doubt you have !!!! IF you arre so inncocent which you may be--why havent you proved it in 10 yrs-why would youa llow a sex offender offense to be on your record for tha tlong if you never did the crime!! You never ever address those questions and your scamming His out of 25.00 amonth---so glad she was smart enough to not do it !!!! You are into the Power game and its very sad there are some on here who have bought your crap--hook line and stinker!!! Now that is the sad part!!!
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11/8/2009 2:46 pm |
FYI, small one, anything new learned is viewed as heretic until proven. You offered to prove me. Because I said I wasn't interested, you resorted to calling me heretic. I did not give you information sufficient for you to make a judgment one way or the other. You are outside of God in this. I have someone that I see regularly that has sufficiently both covered me and proven me. I have no need for you Jeremiah.
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11/8/2009 9:10 pm |
FYI, small one, anything new learned is viewed as heretic until proven. You offered to prove me. Because I said I wasn't interested, you resorted to calling me heretic. I did not give you information sufficient for you to make a judgment one way or the other. You are outside of God in this. I have someone that I see regularly that has sufficiently both covered me and proven me. I have no need for you Jeremiah. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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11/10/2009 12:18 am |
I'm glad I don't go to your church. Have you run a background check on everyone in your congregation and informed the pastor of their past? How about a check on the pastor? I know a lot of pastors with terrible pasts. I hope you included your own past in that report. Isn't church the best place for a "pedophile" to be? Isn't that where sinners should be? Or maybe just not in your church? You quote statistics as far as it's "probable" that a pedophile will act again. I know the statistics but I also KNOW MY GOD, who is life changing. You can put your trust in statistics, I'll place my trust in God. You keep trying to make what you did by giving Claudia information on Jeremiah's past sound noble and good. You gave Claudia the information to discredit Jeremiah in his argument with her. If you wanted to warn the people you would have blogged it and put it on front page, but you didn't do it that way. His4ever was sorry and apologized to Jeremiah for going off-site and bringing his past to Big Church. If His4ever saw what she did with you was wrong and apologized why can't you? Jeremiah has told me enough about his case as well as talking with others who were around and knew the circumstances for me to know that he is innocent. There is a lot that you do not know. Jeremiah has even declared his innocence at this site. He has even invited those who he believes are true "christian" to email him with their concerns. Nobody has emailed him so I guess there not concerned. I fully agree that all sinners need Christ and need to be in Church. However, there should be accountability with them to keep people safe. All sinners are most welcome in my Church - Child Molester's included. Yes, God is a God of changing lives - totally agree. However I haven't met a Child Molester who has been set free and walked totally in that freedom, nor have any of my friends or acquaintances. I told Claudia as I didn't think it wise to converse with Jeremiah off site. I don't think it wise for anyone to converse with him off this site. Jeremiah as I have stated several times is a manipulator, controller, twists Scripture, thinks he's a prophet of God, etc. etc. Why would I apologize for informing everyone that I found Jeremiah on the SO Registry? People have a right to know and should know that they are conversing with a convicted Child Molester. I have nothing to apologize for. HB2, I don't have the same confidence you do that he is innocent. Nothing in his behaviour on here has convinced me he is innocent. The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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11/10/2009 12:25 am |
Here's what happen, Gloria, so that you don't revise history and change what has happened between us... You were posting comments and instruction and doctrine that was contrary to the Word of God. I posted the Word of God to refute your error so that others wouldn't be led astray by you. You began to delete the Scripture (Word of God) that I brought to your error and after a continual stream of error and saying the wrong things about the One True God, you finally blocked me. You continued in your false doctrine even though the Word of God I posted clearly refuted each and every ealse doctrine you wrote and tried to pass off as orthodox Church teaching. Then, when you could not resist the Word of God I posted that showed your error, you began to attack me personally with the fact that I have a criminal conviction over a decade ago and that was your weapon to throw in my face because I stood on the truth of the Word of God and finally discerned you a heretic and an unbeliever who's never met the grace of my God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Now you have friends on your heretical bandwagon and the more the merrier! But the Lord has exposed all six of you as lacking in grace, and mercy, and wisdom, and outside of the salvation of the Lord. That's where we are now. And don't try to enlarge it by saying I condemn people, as in many. Nope, I only reveal in my gift what God has taught me by your own words against the Holy Word of God and call you what the Word calls you. It is the Word that condemns you. And I stand with God and His Word. There's you, Claudia, Rosaceae2007, his4ever2007, Hisglory77, and Dee Dee. All of you have used my past and tried to injure me with it. And you don't even know the whole story! That's that magical part! You post from the side of your neck with only 1% truth and 99% error and missing parts. YOU ARE EXPOSED A HERETIC! And it's doctrinal, not personal. But you've made it personal, not doctrinal. Yup. That's the gist of it. Now what? I am saved! I am a Child of the Most High God! I will be in heaven with my King one day! The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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11/10/2009 12:42 am |
Debate? Why should I debate you? What you did in bringing up my past and force it upon others is sin against their consciences and discredit me in their eyes. You weren't trying to "warn" people here. That's obvious. You tried to use Claudia to further your schemes against me. You use people. And his4ever2007 told me about you and your "gang." Talk about masterminding and trying to usurp a Christian's fellowship here! You take the cake! You don't deal in truth. You call me a pedophile and you don't even know what it means. Listen Rosaceae...I tell you what...The great state of California has things under control handling its own convicts and prisoners. They're doing a fine job in politicizing this crime on the airwaves and media. They scare people into voting for them so that they can be hard on crime, etc. Now that you used Claudia like a rag doll and bended her to your wicked scheme, I'm sure the Californians can take it from here. Thanks for your most gracious deeds in warning us, but why don't you and your other Canadian friend stay out of American lives, now. Why don't you now leave us Americans to our laws and its enforcement and take yourself back to Canada and stop bringing your most honorable sin to our lives here in California and in the United States of America. You can stop bringing up this American citizen's past and throwing it in my face. You can stop as Accuser of the Brethren, now. You can keep your mind on Canada and us Americans will keep our eyes on America. We'll do our best not to cause trouble when we visit Canadian web sites, ok? Thanks, now. And have a good life. Bye Bye now The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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11/10/2009 9:51 am |
Jeremiah, you make me laugh. lololol It's clear that pedophiles, child molesters, rapists, murderers, whomever, need to be receiving the graces of Christ. The truth is that Priscilla is street ministry, and she'll scream hell fire to get an exoneration for Jeremiah. He doesn't need to be exonerated. He really needs to stay in street ministry, and leave those alone that are uncomfortable with those types of people. Just my opinion. You don't ask trash to rub shoulders with silver spoons. I'm not saying Jeremiah is trash. It's simply an analogy. Sorry about that Jer. At any rate, asking him and Priscilla to stay in street ministry isn't too much to ask, if they choose to carry on in trash language.
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11/11/2009 4:08 am |
Jeremiah. I have never used your past to try to injure you with it. I am not that kind of a person. If I told anyone here about it, it was ONLY to protect them. Your 'friend' Priscilla has made the accusation that EVERYONE who has said anything about your past has just done it because you have offended them in some way, doctrinally. This is just plain FALSE. If I am going to try to injure your influence, it would be with Scripture, and nothing more. Also it would not be in any way because of you personally, it would be just again, because I was wanting to protect people. So if you want to be HONEST then you need to stop including me in your list of people to 'condemn'. I do not believe that I have done anything towards you worthly of condemnation. Furthermore, I dont see Priscilla as being a true 'friend' to you. If she were, she would, in my opinion, stop 'fanning the fire' with all of this. To me, it just appears she enjoys all of the trouble she is stirring up and she is using YOU to do it with. She used to do the same to ME continuously, and now shes got a new thing to use for that. You view Rosa as using ME, but I think closer to the truth would be that Priscilla is using YOU to get attention. She ought to be counseling you to just be quiet about all of this and to stop stirring it up. Furthermore if she were your 'friend' she would be helping you to see that you need to stop condemning so many people as HERETICS, GOATS, UNSAVED etc, just because they dont view the scriptures as you do. Seriously Jeremiah, I in a way feel sorry for you because of all of this and I truly believe YOU are being used but you just do not realize it. Hopefully you will some time soon. Look Brother, and I WILL call you Brother, in a way, because I believe we have all got the SAME CREATOR, this woman is NOT doing you any favors. If you are INNOCENT and if you truly believe in the Theology that you believe in and think it is right, (which I do NOT believe it is right, but you already know that) --then the thing for you to do is, STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS ALTOGETHER. No matter WHAT anyone else says or does. And just do blogs on what you believe, showing from Scripture why you believe it. I just sort of have mixed feelings about this Jeremiah, because I myself was hurt in a terrible way by someone who used people for sexual reasons then lied about it to cover it up. But I also realize it would be UNFAIR OF ME to then assume that you must be guilty. I DO NOT assume that. In fact, I think it is UTTERLY STUPID for people to assume either your innocence OR your guilt. Because as far as I can see THEY DONT KNOW. All they have is your word for it. So IF you are innocent then just stop talking about it. This is just my advice. I dont believe in bearing false witness against your neighbor. God is your Protector. Stop attacking people as being 'heretics', stop even talking about this, dont allow others to use you by keeping on bringing it up. And just start talking about what you believe. I know that at times I may seem to change my mind about you, but thats just because Ive got mixed feelings about it all. And if I have truly in God's eyes wronged you in any way, then I would, if I knew it, be truly genuinely sorry for it.
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11/11/2009 7:09 pm |
Jeremiah. I have never used your past to try to injure you with it. I am not that kind of a person. If I told anyone here about it, it was ONLY to protect them. Your 'friend' Priscilla has made the accusation that EVERYONE who has said anything about your past has just done it because you have offended them in some way, doctrinally. This is just plain FALSE. If I am going to try to injure your influence, it would be with Scripture, and nothing more. Also it would not be in any way because of you personally, it would be just again, because I was wanting to protect people. So if you want to be HONEST then you need to stop including me in your list of people to 'condemn'. I do not believe that I have done anything towards you worthly of condemnation. Furthermore, I dont see Priscilla as being a true 'friend' to you. If she were, she would, in my opinion, stop 'fanning the fire' with all of this. To me, it just appears she enjoys all of the trouble she is stirring up and she is using YOU to do it with. She used to do the same to ME continuously, and now shes got a new thing to use for that. You view Rosa as using ME, but I think closer to the truth would be that Priscilla is using YOU to get attention. She ought to be counseling you to just be quiet about all of this and to stop stirring it up. Furthermore if she were your 'friend' she would be helping you to see that you need to stop condemning so many people as HERETICS, GOATS, UNSAVED etc, just because they dont view the scriptures as you do. Seriously Jeremiah, I in a way feel sorry for you because of all of this and I truly believe YOU are being used but you just do not realize it. Hopefully you will some time soon. Look Brother, and I WILL call you Brother, in a way, because I believe we have all got the SAME CREATOR, this woman is NOT doing you any favors. If you are INNOCENT and if you truly believe in the Theology that you believe in and think it is right, (which I do NOT believe it is right, but you already know that) --then the thing for you to do is, STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS ALTOGETHER. No matter WHAT anyone else says or does. And just do blogs on what you believe, showing from Scripture why you believe it. I just sort of have mixed feelings about this Jeremiah, because I myself was hurt in a terrible way by someone who used people for sexual reasons then lied about it to cover it up. But I also realize it would be UNFAIR OF ME to then assume that you must be guilty. I DO NOT assume that. In fact, I think it is UTTERLY STUPID for people to assume either your innocence OR your guilt. Because as far as I can see THEY DONT KNOW. All they have is your word for it. So IF you are innocent then just stop talking about it. This is just my advice. I dont believe in bearing false witness against your neighbor. God is your Protector. Stop attacking people as being 'heretics', stop even talking about this, dont allow others to use you by keeping on bringing it up. And just start talking about what you believe. I know that at times I may seem to change my mind about you, but thats just because Ive got mixed feelings about it all. And if I have truly in God's eyes wronged you in any way, then I would, if I knew it, be truly genuinely sorry for it. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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11/13/2009 8:41 pm |
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11/14/2009 8:37 pm |
Yes Priscilla and Andrew lets talk about SELECTIVE MEMORY. A couple years back Andrew started the same kind of crap in the Magazine section that he now has going on here. He came in with all his pomp, pride, and self-righteousness condemning people who didn't believe exactly as he did. He proclaimed himself a prophet, sent by God to change B.C. of it's sinful ways, and especially so with matters of $ex, and physical attraction, placing these things outside the context of a Christian marriage and trying to take what God made beautiful and said was very good, and making it into something ugly and defiled. For months he went on and on with his pious condemnations, calling it God's Word, until finally two women confronted him with his own past, hoping to show him he is not so perfect himself that he can call down judgment on others. A short time later Andrew left Big Church, which we all later learned was because he was taken back to prison. Meanwhile the Big Church site came under the ownership of a long time Pornographic magazine. So much for Andrew's call from God to us on B.C. Not only did he fail to fulfill his commission, but he himself fell under sin again and returned to prison for it, and the website he was supposed to correct came to be owned by Penthouse. Now fast forward to last spring. Andrew got out of prison, and returned to Big Church still claiming to be a prophet, and still here to correct us, even though to date he has not successfully corrected a single one of us. Shortly after the Miss America Beauty Pageant Steve (GC) has a blog about Miss Calf. and her remarks over gay marriage. Andrew, our pious, perfect, prophet stops in and totally condemns Miss Calf. but not for her remarks, which was the subject of the post, and whether or not they were to her credit. No he was having conniptions because she was even in a beauty contest, and proceeded to bash her for having done this. No consideration was given to her honest testimony to a panel of judges, (one of which was gay) about how marriage was ordained by God to be for a man and a woman. The whole national Christian community cheered her on for having the guts and audacity to proclaim a godly message in a carnal ruled beauty contest. Nobody was judging her, but supporting her for giving a godly message to the world. For all we know, this may have been God's role for her to play in the Great Commission the Lord himself gave us. Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. In debating with Andrew, I pointed out this very thing, and told him that nothing in the Bible says to exclude secular beauty contest's so Andrews remarks comparing beauty contests with pornography had no merit here. It was then that Andrew tried to intimidate me that he was some kind of force to be reckoned with, so I shouldn't argue with him, and just agree with his judgment as coming from God. He reminded me of how he was in the Magazine section a couple years back, in his vain attempts to intimidate me, to show me I should be afraid of him. A very big mistake on his part, because nobody intimidates me, and trying to do so will only increase my assertiveness. His trying to intimidate me with his ministry and knowledge is like a pre-graduate law student trying to intimidate a courtroom judge. It took a lot of effort on my part to resist giving him a good ole 'what-for' and show him just how small he really is, but I did abstain from such temptation. Instead, I replied that yes I remember him from the magazine, and that he is a registered sex offender, and that's all the more reason that he's in no position to judge someone else. After that reply I never returned to that blog post, figuring he'd have a bunch of garbage that I really didn't want to lower myself to. I didn't bother him, and he didn't bother me for several months, even though we sometimes posted within the same thread. Until he posted a blog about how upsetting it was to him for people to address him by his first name without his permission. I responded to that. I did not put him down or call him any names, but clearly presented my point that his name is the proper way to address him, unless one didn't know his name. I did ask why he was ashamed of his name, and eluded to his own pride of wanting to be addressed as the name of one of God's prophets. Next thing I know, he's done a post of me and these others, accusing us of all collaborating together to tell BC of his past. He said that Gloria, and I had joined Marianne and Rosa in an E-mail campaign to BC members about his past and had been doing so since last March. Well now I know I had not done so, in fact I even forgot which specific women had brought forth his conviction the first time until he himself called them out for it. Gloria's first knowledge of his past came after he posted about the argument he had with me over Miss Calf back last spring. At which time she found it and read it for herself. DeeDee didn't know about it until she came to Gloria's defense, and he accused her of propagating the same rumor, and that was when Gloria told DeeDee. By then I was requesting from Andrew proof of these charges he's made against us. He claimed to have discerned that this had been going on since last March when it wasn't. He never had and still doesn't have proof and he knows it. But to cover his tracks he claims this discernment that nobody can disprove, but again, neither can he prove it. He then further discerned that none of us were saved that we don't know grace because we never experienced it. That we had sinned against him and God in deliberating starting rumors that he himself actually started concerning himself, but twisted it to discredit us as having discredited him. Andrew has exposed his past himself, and blamed it on others. He has lied about others lying about him. He has incited other bloggers discrediting us by saying we were we were discrediting him, and claiming we were leading them into sin, when it is he who is trying to lead them into sin. He has falsely claimed the gift ministry of a prophet which he doesn't have. He has given false words of his own as if they are words from God. He claims to have been speaking the Word of God in correction, when in fact he is the one rejecting the correction from the Word of God. I have one more word from God for Andrew. Exo 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Priscilla my dear sister, you have truly gotten yourself on the wrong side this time. Please get before your maker and pray about this matter, before this deceiving false prophet takes you into judgment with him. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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